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  • Illtsate32
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 3079

    #1

    Passing Points/Double Heats

    How does this format work? Is it better to start up front or say mid pack in a heat..Is it possible to win your heat and not make the a main?
  • gb81racing
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 477

    #2
    Announcer said you could win a heat and still not make the main. The second heat will be inverted so I guess it's best to guess it's best to do the best you can in both for passing points.

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    • Crashmagnet
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 326

      #3
      I go to the DTWC most years, they employ it for that show. I don't care for it at all, but a bunch of people do.

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #4
        You get the most points for winning the heat race regardless of who passed how many!
        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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        • Hoosier_Dirt
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 1632

          #5
          No event should ever qualify!! Big waste of time, passing point heats is way to go.

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          • GEAR_HEAD
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3107

            #6
            Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
            No event should ever qualify!! Big waste of time, passing point heats is way to go.
            Agreed!!!!!

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            • zyoung25
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 8958

              #7
              Anywhere but the first or last rows.

              It would be easier for fans to keep track of if the same cars raced each other twice. That's what makes it confusing for most.

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              • huskerdirt
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 5620

                #8
                The best way to understand this double heat/passing point system is just go by average finish. A driver with a 2.0 average finish isn't gonna start better(or have more points) than a driver with a 1.0 or 1.5. The way the system is setup it's just not mathematically possible. Now 2 drivers with the same average finish can have two different point totals. That's because the system gives 1.76 per car pass and has a 4 point finishing position spread.

                Depending on the number cars,heats and the cut off(taking 16 or 18). A driver can win a heat and still not make the show. If the race has 5 heats per round it's almost a guaranteed lock or front row of the B if you win a heat. 6 heats per round, better finish in the top 5 of your other heat. The DTWC has 8 heats, you'll like need to finish 3rd in your other to get in.

                Yes, it is possible to win your heat and not have the most points from that heat. If you start 7th or further back and get 2nd. You'll score more points than the winner if he started on pole.

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                • quickbiscuit
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                  You get the most points for winning the heat race regardless of who passed how many!
                  Doesn't work that way. A 4th place finisher can end up with more points than the winner.

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                  • fryefan
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3547

                    #10
                    Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                    You get the most points for winning the heat race regardless of who passed how many!
                    That is not even remotely true.

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                    • fryefan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3547

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
                      No event should ever qualify!! Big waste of time, passing point heats is way to go.
                      Totally agree.

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                      • Highside Hustler25
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 12965

                        #12
                        I thought McCreadie would of had a higher points total than he did. He passed a ton of cars in 1 of those heats.
                        8/13/16

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                        • a25rjr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3774

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fryefan View Post
                          That is not even remotely true.
                          I read that from one of the races last year. Im pretty sure it was the SDN.

                          That's BS then, whats the pole guy supposed to, drop back and pass cars! the WINNER should always get the most points! smh
                          Last edited by a25rjr; 08-12-2017, 09:17 AM.
                          Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                          • GEAR_HEAD
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3107

                            #14
                            Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                            I read that from one of the races last year.

                            That's BS then, whats the pole guy supposed to, drop back and pass cars! smh
                            It doesn't work like that. The polesitter is supposed to pass several cars in the heat that they start last in. It's really that simple.

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                            • zyoung25
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 8958

                              #15
                              The pole sitter must win his heat, or at the least finish in the top 3 to keep himself equal for the 2nd round. Falling back much more than that, better hope for a soft heat or a really fast race car to gain what ya lost in 1st round, or vice versa.

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