Tire Cheating Thread of Shame

[MI Dirt Fan]

I think I read they busted 3-4 just in a 3 month period at EastBay. Whether they've been busted or not they are still winning races. If they ban everyone for life when they get caught there won't be any cars left.

[a25rjr]

I think I read they busted 3-4 just in a 3 month period at EastBay. Whether they've been busted or not they are still winning races. If they ban everyone for life when they get caught there won't be any cars left.

Yep, that's a couple I was referring to!

Their supplier lives about 5 mins from me.

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Owens
Terry Casey
Jerry Rice
Audie McWilliams
Jason Jameson
Jonathan Davenport
BShepp
Madden
Willie Millikan
Feger
Satterlee

When was jd running w funny tires. Just wondering

[billetbirdcage]

When was jd running w funny tires. Just wondering

magnolia (him and Ronny lee) and I believe one or two of the bigger crate races down south

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magnolia (him and Ronny lee) and I believe one or two of the bigger crate races down south

Was this resently or yrs ago?

[Highwayman]

Was this resently or yrs ago?

Several years ago, super race at Columbus I believe but it was a weird deal with misplaced samples no chain of custody and lots of issues and was inconclusive in the end. Seems like it was a sniffer deal, but they were reusing some part of the testing equip and cross contaminating. It wasn't with Rumley. I don't believe tire cheating is as wide spread as some would like to believe, but strict tire rules tend to lead to more of it.

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Several years ago, super race at Columbus I believe but it was a weird deal with misplaced samples no chain of custody and lots of issues and was inconclusive in the end. Seems like it was a sniffer deal, but they were reusing some part of the testing equip and cross contaminating. It wasn't with Rumley. I don't believe tire cheating is as wide spread as some would like to believe, but strict tire rules tend to lead to more of it.

Ok thanks. That may have been w barrys car at the time? I think they loaded there car and left if its same one

[Highwayman]

Ok thanks. That may have been w barrys car at the time? I think they loaded there car and left if its same one

That's the one.

[Nobody]

It was with Barry Wright. You were allowed six or seven hundred points on the sniffer. Everyone else but two cars passed, where Davenport's and Ronnie Lee we're over 1800. Everyone was told that the sniffer was the final judge but some made a big stink about it in the following days so Stokes spent his own money to send the samples off and they failed. I can't remember if Stokes ever made that public. Every other car read between 200 and 300 counts!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You mean the one's that have been caught or the one's that are doing it.

See the majority of people winning. Ole ptown and his glass house and perfect self.

[Krooser]

We made our own tire soaking stuff after Ball's got too expensive. One of the guys wives was a nurse and she called Ball's saying she was from the poison control center and needed to know the contents...no MSDS in those days.

Even though I sold tires that would durometer at 32 we still soaked ' em... One lap qualifying tires

So you can add my name to the list....

[Bubstr]

What is strange, is only Owens and the NDRL, a short term series, posted the results of the tests publicly. If WOO and Lucas aren't transparent with the results, did it even happen? They are being judged by the fans, so the fans should see the evidence. If they buy a old or new tire from Hoosier and it don't conform to recent runs, is it illegal? If the chemicals in the soak, aren't toxic and a health problem, should they be illegal?

[Highwayman]

What is strange, is only Owens and the NDRL, a short term series, posted the results of the tests publicly. If WOO and Lucas aren't transparent with the results, did it even happen? They are being judged by the fans, so the fans should see the evidence. If they buy a old or new tire from Hoosier and it don't conform to recent runs, is it illegal? If the chemicals in the soak, aren't toxic and a health problem, should they be illegal?

Those are the questions I think they hoped to avoid in the lawsuit of the 5. That’s why they were so harsh with bans, being evasive instead of forth coming. They know there are issues with the procedures and some reasonable questioning of labs credibility too. The whole thing feels like a government opperation more concerned with saving face than honesty or accuracy. I’d love to see tire soaking go away but not with fictitious and erroneous politically motivated results and enforcement.

[Barbecueboy]

Know there are issues you say?

[Krooser]

I agree with Highway man....WRG's testing procedure has more holes in it than Hillary's campaign.