Who Actually Pioneered The Lifting of Left Front And All The Rear Steer

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #31
    Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
    You always wanted more track width on the front but today that right front is a foot outside the rr at least..I honestly dont see how the rf tire holds up as well as it does as much camber as they are running now days...
    Look at the Blair picture. The tire is cambered the wrong way. Today's cars only have excessive camber on the straight. The tire isn't being tortured at that point.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • b1eagle
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 382

      #32
      GRT was the first.I had a new one and they told me and Randal Chupp to put this set up on our cars at Bulls Gap.We both done it and thought they were crazy.Chuppp had mech..problems and we started 23rd and was passing for 2nd when we got spun out .We won 13 races and made the world 100 in 1996 in the Grt.

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      • zeroracing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1014

        #33
        As a guy that back in the LF high riding rage out some cars up on their side or over... I like that front end down feeling much better myself.

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        • 70satomic
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 149

          #34
          Freddie Smith's crew had set his car up one night during hot laps and it was 3 wheeling and he came in and was madder than hell , he quickly told the crew he had won all his race's on 4 wheels and to adjust the car right

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          • Illtsate32
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 3079

            #35
            Once again monkey see monkey do lol once somebody seen someone else do it then 98 percent of the guys were doing it the next week at that track...

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            • STRONGERTHANDIRT
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 753

              #36
              Rick Aukland carried the left front as well. Thought the car was gonna turn over sometimes.

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              • zyoung25
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 8945

                #37
                I remember being a kid and standing in the pit area in turn 4 at prp seeing several cars raise the left front so high, you could see the driveshaft turning.

                Looking back, these cars are not easy to see out of as it is. Vison couldn't have been very good at all when the cars were up like that.

                It was awesome to see though.

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                • BloomerHarvickFan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 546

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                  My '94 wide combo MB was a leaf car and was converted around '99-2000...

                  MBR is going to be my go-to advisor next season... he's guaranteed me a spot in the World 100 if I just follow his set-up... not sure if I can afford the J-2 jet engine right now but I'm saving my bucks.

                  Here's Chubzilla winning at Portsmouth circa early 2000's with a Rocket that was on the hook... the famous 'pass in the grass'...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMAAFu0bWNE
                  Wait a minute. Did they actually give that win to Chub Frank? after he drove through the infield???? How is that not a DQ or 1 lap penalty or something?

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                  • CIRF
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8122

                    #39
                    Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                    I remember being a kid and standing in the pit area in turn 4 at prp seeing several cars raise the left front so high, you could see the driveshaft turning.

                    Looking back, these cars are not easy to see out of as it is. Vison couldn't have been very good at all when the cars were up like that.

                    It was awesome to see though.
                    Tommy Rients said the exact same thing when he first started carrying the left front. Tommy said it got a little scary when all he could see directly in front of him was the top of the left front fender.

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                    • LIS20
                      Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 83

                      #40
                      Left front hike

                      What did they do - what can you do - to calm down the left front hike

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                      • chupp n bloomer fan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 11526

                        #41
                        Originally posted by BloomerHarvickFan View Post
                        Wait a minute. Did they actually give that win to Chub Frank? after he drove through the infield???? How is that not a DQ or 1 lap penalty or something?
                        Yes they did. At that time it was perfectly legal. Right after that they made a rule. I don't blame him one bit. PRP can really lock down, lapper was in the way, Billy went under the tire to pass him, so Chub said watch this sh!t.

                        I laugh at it, and watch it in disbelief. Chub is a cool dude who doesn't take no sh!t, so I am not surprised he did it.
                        Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                        • mcarter815
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1690

                          #42
                          Originally posted by LIS20 View Post
                          What did they do - what can you do - to calm down the left front hike
                          The lf hike has mostly gone away with the rise of computer programs designing moment center locations. The setups are more balanced today than in the past. http://www.hotrod.com/articles/dirt-race-car-setup/

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                          • TheJet-09
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1616

                            #43
                            When I first went to the spring behind, I think I had a 300# spring on the LR with 300 lbs of bite! Not something you'd see today (at least I don't think so). And I didn't limit travel in any way (well, technically it was limited at some point), so it was as aggressive as it could be.

                            I'm not sure when they started limiting LR hike, at least across the board by everyone. It sure was fun messing around with stuff back then, though!

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                            • Illtsate32
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 3079

                              #44
                              I guess to save the shock but a chain limiter or the shock full extension is still trying to pull the lr off the ground? Is that why they trying to bolt lead to the axles and all this steel wheel heavy birgcage bs... it sound alot to me like robbing peter t o pay paul...

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                              • Crossbones
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 812

                                #45
                                Originally posted by TheJet-09 View Post
                                I see those old videos now and think of how boring the racing looked, even though you could never get enough back then. Cars just skating around, no grip, and looking like weight transfer hadn't yet been discovered (yes, even though it obviously had been).
                                I was thinking the same thing while watching that 99 North/south video (I was at that race).

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