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  • Doc88D
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 170

    #16
    If you use the "Keep em out" theory that some of you are advocating. Then what does that do for former Dirt Track World Champion Ronnie Johnson? He finished second from deep in the field. He is also a multi time Nesmith champ. I don't see how you could tell one to race and one not to. Its racing. You bring your best and hope to beet the rest that show up. There are no rules about the size of the hauler the team uses...
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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14310

      #17
      Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
      If you use the "Keep em out" theory that some of you are advocating. Then what does that do for former Dirt Track World Champion Ronnie Johnson? He finished second from deep in the field. He is also a multi time Nesmith champ. I don't see how you could tell one to race and one not to. Its racing. You bring your best and hope to beet the rest that show up. There are no rules about the size of the hauler the team uses...
      Simple. Ronnie races on that level now.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • RW57
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 662

        #18
        I agree thats what Ronnie Johnson does now. No Lucas World of Outlaws World 100 s etc he makes his living that way plus he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet unlike Lanigan who is a total a-hole the fans might be the one complaining but remember they pay the purses by attending and if they don't like it they ain't paying their money to see it.

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        • King1
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 354

          #19
          I dont see what the big deal is. The keep em out theory is just plain dumb. When youre paying professional level money expect professional level people to show up. But people are people no matter where you go. Every track has the fan that hates seeing the pros take the money, they all have the fan that hates seeing the locals succeed against the pros. Ive gotten my @$$ handed to me everytime a pro comes to my track. You can do one of two things, dont go lookin for trouble and you wont find it, or take your beating, get some teeth knocked out, go over notes, game film, and get better for next time.

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          • NormP
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2262

            #20
            To paraphrase some of you complaining about it:

            "Hey drivers, glad you all showed up on time for the drivers' meeting. Just thought I'd let you know Lanigan, Bloomquist and Davenport wanted to race tonight but we wouldn't let them because they're great drivers and you're not.

            You're welcome. Be safe out there tonight boys."

            That would go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

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            • RW57
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 662

              #21
              The whole comes down to crates started with good intentions but that has went by the wayside money like everything else in life wins everytime.

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              • Kwd1253
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 2262

                #22
                Originally posted by NormP View Post
                To paraphrase some of you complaining about it:

                "Hey drivers, glad you all showed up on time for the drivers' meeting. Just thought I'd let you know Lanigan, Bloomquist and Davenport wanted to race tonight but we wouldn't let them because they're great drivers and you're not.

                You're welcome. Be safe out there tonight boys."

                That would go over like a turd in a punch bowl.
                I'm sure a lot drive would have moment of relief hearing that they not racing. They have better chance to win it if big time super late them didn't show up lol.

                I don't really agree with big high profile super late driver, kind going after easier money to say. But it's on the series if they let people like lanigan race or not. But it kind does see where this crate driver are at. Like few said they do have lot big money crate teams, so it's fair play for big money late driver to race. If small budget/weekend drivers don't like it, they have stand up not let big money teams "crate and super late" race for it.

                Myself I rather see 70 car count of local/weekend hobby no body crate drivers race it out for 20k. I don't got see national or top regional drivers ever Friday or Sat.

                Seen someone say what different when regional or weekend driver racing against national tour. It's a little different odds play in Lucas/WoO teams favor. Top regional driver sometimes beat them, it's rare when small team regional beats them, much less a local weekend track driver. At one time this could happen often for fav local weekend track driver pick up a win.

                But hey it is what it is

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                • Highwayman
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 423

                  #23
                  First, If they didn't want interlopers taking home the bread they shouldn't have offered so much prize money from the beginning. Second, crates are the very reason supers are dead in the south except for touring so they made their bed, so now they can lie in it. Mr FASTRAK and the other promoters who followed suit knew what they were doing when they started offering bigger purses for crate than Limited and Super, they even advertised that Super guys would be competing as a fan draw. So now the big names aren't welcome after having the late model landscape obliterated by these socialized racing engines classes. Nope, F#@k them and the horse they rode in on. Some "fans/posters" don't understand, some of these guys are racing to put food on the table, not for bragging rights. If they want crate to be budget minded, give out trophies instead of cash.
                  I was a highwayman
                  Along the coach roads I did ride
                  With sword and pistol by my side
                  and I am still alive

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                  • formercrewguy
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 987

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Highwayman View Post
                    First, If they didn't want interlopers taking home the bread they shouldn't have offered so much prize money from the beginning. Second, crates are the very reason supers are dead in the south except for touring so they made their bed, so now they can lie in it. Mr FASTRAK and the other promoters who followed suit knew what they were doing when they started offering bigger purses for crate than Limited and Super, they even advertised that Super guys would be competing as a fan draw. So now the big names aren't welcome after having the late model landscape obliterated by these socialized racing engines classes. Nope, F#@k them and the horse they rode in on. Some "fans/posters" don't understand, some of these guys are racing to put food on the table, not for bragging rights. If they want crate to be budget minded, give out trophies instead of cash.
                    Truth!!.....

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14310

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NormP View Post
                      To paraphrase some of you complaining about it:

                      "Hey drivers, glad you all showed up on time for the drivers' meeting. Just thought I'd let you know Lanigan, Bloomquist and Davenport wanted to race tonight but we wouldn't let them because they're great drivers and you're not.

                      You're welcome. Be safe out there tonight boys."

                      That would go over like a turd in a punch bowl.
                      When crates started, they didn't want them there. If you started racing sport mods, would you want a guy like Unzicker showing up with a new Ruhlman car?
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • tb1545
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 208

                        #26
                        There was an article a few weeks back basically talking about this. Dolly Parton vs Kim Kardashian purses big names show up to the big money to win shows ie. Dolly Parton purse structure. If you want to reward your locals/ low money guys make it 5k to won 2 k to start. Hell pay 3k to the winner and 5k to second just to screw with people.

                        If im a driver and lannigan is at the track racing crates, I'm excited I get to compete and test my skills against one of the best and at the closest thing I would ever have to a level playing field against him.

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                        • slmcrewchief99
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 738

                          #27
                          Kind of amazing that nothing is really ever said when JD goes to all the good paying crate shows and wins. He is notorious for going. It's like crickets on here when he does. Before this gets any farther along does anyone know how many crate races JD, Overton, or Lanigan ran all year for 2017? I would be willing to bet that scale is pretty light for Lanigan. What is the big deal all the sudden? Lanigan won a crate race. So what. It is what it is.

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                          • Hovlane
                            Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 89

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Highwayman View Post
                            First, If they didn't want interlopers taking home the bread they shouldn't have offered so much prize money from the beginning. Second, crates are the very reason supers are dead in the south except for touring so they made their bed, so now they can lie in it. Mr FASTRAK and the other promoters who followed suit knew what they were doing when they started offering bigger purses for crate than Limited and Super, they even advertised that Super guys would be competing as a fan draw. So now the big names aren't welcome after having the late model landscape obliterated by these socialized racing engines classes. Nope, F#@k them and the horse they rode in on. Some "fans/posters" don't understand, some of these guys are racing to put food on the table, not for bragging rights. If they want crate to be budget minded, give out trophies instead of cash.
                            Ding, ding ding we have a winner!!!!! Bravo!!!!!

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                            • Kwd1253
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2262

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Highwayman View Post
                              First, If they didn't want interlopers taking home the bread they shouldn't have offered so much prize money from the beginning. Second, crates are the very reason supers are dead in the south except for touring so they made their bed, so now they can lie in it. Mr FASTRAK and the other promoters who followed suit knew what they were doing when they started offering bigger purses for crate than Limited and Super, they even advertised that Super guys would be competing as a fan draw. So now the big names aren't welcome after having the late model landscape obliterated by these socialized racing engines classes. Nope, F#@k them and the horse they rode in on. Some "fans/posters" don't understand, some of these guys are racing to put food on the table, not for bragging rights. If they want crate to be budget minded, give out trophies instead of cash.
                              I guess old Lanigan not making no money off them club 29 cars. He average mid pack runner, if you do a year to year average on him all the ups and down he has had for the last 2 years.

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                              • Slinging
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 195

                                #30
                                From what i read Lanigan sold the car Friday night to someone and raced it Saturday...

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