Ray Cook praises new Southern Nationals rules after test session

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  • Drop Shock
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 821

    #46
    Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
    up until the rule was made no cars had door plates in them either. Despite all the bickering, nobody stayed home because of the rule...
    They did not want to weld those door plates on like Eldora originally posted was the rule. I wasn't until the drivers questioned the rule, then they were allowed the bolt on door plates. Are they gonna allow people to bolt on an underslung mount and bar??

    As for the Boggs Swartz cars, I'd say there will be no participation unless this rule is made more fair

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    • King1
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 354

      #47
      I dont see whats fair and what isnt fair. These guys just have to go back to 4 inches of droop and scale the cars with wedge thats in the standard setup guides. Im sure longhorn and rocket will make "brandon overton rule" 4 bar and j bar plates and ppm will make the aftermarket version and life is peachy. Again this type of thing was normal 3 years ago for anybody that didnt have a swartz car.

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      • RW57
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 662

        #48
        Thanks i did not see the part about the underrail

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        • Drop Shock
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 821

          #49
          Originally posted by King1 View Post
          I dont see whats fair and what isnt fair. These guys just have to go back to 4 inches of droop and scale the cars with wedge thats in the standard setup guides. Im sure longhorn and rocket will make "brandon overton rule" 4 bar and j bar plates and ppm will make the aftermarket version and life is peachy. Again this type of thing was normal 3 years ago for anybody that didnt have a swartz car.
          I just know I wouldn't be the one that has to call Jackie and say "hey man I know you and you have been supporting us for a lot of years, but you and your customers are not allowed to race with us unless you weld 15 pounds or tubing into your car"

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14310

            #50
            Bolt on an undersung. Go race. Or don't. Might be 5#.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • King1
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 354

              #51
              Where does it say you cant have an over rail car? If thats the case then no mastersbilt cars allowed.

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              • Drop Shock
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 821

                #52
                Originally posted by King1 View Post
                Where does it say you cant have an over rail car? If thats the case then no mastersbilt cars allowed.
                From their rules bulliten:
                -Car must have a frame (under swung) on the left-rear between the bell of rear-end and the birdcage with a jackpeg or weight clamp bolted on for the jack to lift the car.

                Bolting in an underslung like that used to do on the old black front rockets would be cool, but I saw a tweet where Ray said they had to be welded in

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14310

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Drop Shock View Post
                  From their rules bulliten:
                  -Car must have a frame (under swung) on the left-rear between the bell of rear-end and the birdcage with a jackpeg or weight clamp bolted on for the jack to lift the car.

                  Bolting in an underslung like that used to do on the old black front rockets would be cool, but I saw a tweet where Ray said they had to be welded in
                  Agreed. Shouldn't have to weld it. Actually, the newer Masters cars have bolt in LR underslungs.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • King1
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 354

                    #54
                    Well. I dont mind the droop limit but to have an under rail welded in is kinda dumb. Its whatever i guess. A car that isnt an under rail to begin with would be odd to have to weld one in. That would be a long piece of tubing to run from the j bar mount to the rear bumper.

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                    • President Clinton
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 490

                      #55
                      Any takers on a Rumley device connected to the under slung bar letting it raise before the car does making its way in somewhere???? I am an uneducated dumbhole, but bet I could get by this according to the “rule” and how it will be checked. I might even sell the “device “ to anyone wanting to beat the rule!

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                      • warriorracerg9
                        Member
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 54

                        #56
                        Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                        up until the rule was made no cars had door plates in them either. Despite all the bickering, nobody stayed home because of the rule...
                        Because the door plate rule actually makes sense.

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                        • cjsracing
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 838

                          #57
                          King1,

                          My 2016 Mastersbilt has bolt in underslungs and it came that way right from Mastersbilt. They are also bolted in and easily removed/re-added. Removing them is only about 8 lbs of weight difference.
                          Last edited by cjsracing; 12-24-2017, 06:41 PM.

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                          • King1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 354

                            #58
                            Originally posted by cjsracing View Post
                            King1,

                            My 2016 Mastersbilt has bolt in underslungs and it came that way right from Mastersbilt. They are also bolted in and easily removed/re-added. Removing them is only about 8 lbs of weight difference.
                            My last mastersbilt was a 2013 model. It did not have a under rail option.

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                            • Drop Shock
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 821

                              #59
                              Mastersbilt has made under-rail cars and so has Swartz, but the vast majority of their cars produced in the last 5 to 10 years are over-rail cars

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                              • Highwayman
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 423

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Drop Shock View Post
                                Mastersbilt has made under-rail cars and so has Swartz, but the vast majority of their cars produced in the last 5 to 10 years are over-rail cars
                                I'm sure the over-rail aspect of the rule can be dealt with.
                                I was a highwayman
                                Along the coach roads I did ride
                                With sword and pistol by my side
                                and I am still alive

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