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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #61
    I think they are fighting public perception. Not the actual quality of the tire test. This test is pretty easy to administer. The problem I have is the lack of visibility into what was found that didn't belong.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #62
      Besides testing your latest Gizmo from your benefactors at Penske or Port City, guys need to practice passing the polygraph now.
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      • rageman
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 8

        #63
        I have a view on this subject to and here it is , when someone is using prep on the tires and the others aren't ,well when the other cars that are not using it and they go out to qualify or heat races and you run behind this guy or in his tracks and your tires will pick up the tire prep and even if you weren't using it , it will still be on your tires and so when they come for a tire and they do their tests and bang you are a cheater , so you can't really believe their tests

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14324

          #64
          Originally posted by rageman View Post
          I have a view on this subject to and here it is , when someone is using prep on the tires and the others aren't ,well when the other cars that are not using it and they go out to qualify or heat races and you run behind this guy or in his tracks and your tires will pick up the tire prep and even if you weren't using it , it will still be on your tires and so when they come for a tire and they do their tests and bang you are a cheater , so you can't really believe their tests
          Those tires would have to be dripping like a soaked sponge. No way.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • HoosierDirtFan
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 22186

            #65
            Pic is from From Zach Dohm's FB page..
            Here it is folks.

            Last edited by HoosierDirtFan; 01-28-2018, 07:08 PM.
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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #66
              You just need deniability. Have someone not on your team do the work.
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              • tsand
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 528

                #67
                you would still have knowledge of it . one of the question could be do you have knowledge of anyone prepping your tires. as for cross contamination it's my understanding the the lab has built in tolerance to eliminate this chance. the problem is not it the transparency in the lab testing but the transparency in the manufacturing process of the tires. a hoosier 1350 from 2 years ago is nothing like a new 1350 today.

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                • Necrosis
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 379

                  #68
                  Originally posted by rageman View Post
                  I have a view on this subject to and here it is , when someone is using prep on the tires and the others aren't ,well when the other cars that are not using it and they go out to qualify or heat races and you run behind this guy or in his tracks and your tires will pick up the tire prep and even if you weren't using it , it will still be on your tires and so when they come for a tire and they do their tests and bang you are a cheater , so you can't really believe their tests
                  That's impossible. I'm guessing you've not been around much tire prep?

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                  • zyoung25
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 8960

                    #69
                    Originally posted by rageman View Post
                    I have a view on this subject to and here it is , when someone is using prep on the tires and the others aren't ,well when the other cars that are not using it and they go out to qualify or heat races and you run behind this guy or in his tracks and your tires will pick up the tire prep and even if you weren't using it , it will still be on your tires and so when they come for a tire and they do their tests and bang you are a cheater , so you can't really believe their tests
                    I'm guessing you've seen this at go karts tracks, or maybe even rc car tracks. I know on both of those worlds you'll see guys sit their karts or cars down with dripping wet tires, to where it'll leave streaks on the track when they drive away. You won't see that happen over here in the full scale cars.

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14324

                      #70
                      Originally posted by tsand View Post
                      you would still have knowledge of it . one of the question could be do you have knowledge of anyone prepping your tires. as for cross contamination it's my understanding the the lab has built in tolerance to eliminate this chance. the problem is not it the transparency in the lab testing but the transparency in the manufacturing process of the tires. a hoosier 1350 from 2 years ago is nothing like a new 1350 today.
                      Do they not benchmark by lot#?
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                      • rageman
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 8

                        #71
                        think about it , they don't have to be dripping with prep , lets see when its hot and dry and they go around the track and lets see you see the rubber they lay down and you don't thing your tires wont pick that up ?? when your tire is spinning on the groove of rubber laid down by other cars and you run threw a guy that prepped his tires it is a known fact they pick up rubber that was laid down

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #72
                          Does it seem strange that someone has to prove his innocents, when innocents is given and guilt has to be proved, is the law of the land. Give the lie detector tests to the officials, rule makers, tire manufacturers and those doing the tests and delivery.

                          The first question should be, why is WD40 and Simple green, deadly contaminants, when you lube and clean the kids toys with them. Do they need banned from the supermarket also? If it's a health safety problem as stated, or not. If not could it be a tire manufacturer problem or series problem.

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #73
                            Seems strange that I actually agree with you on something........
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • Krooser
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3117

                              #74
                              I'll call Tom Deery and tell him to just hire my wife to be the lie detector...I've never gotten away with anything with that woman.

                              Or just hire that Jeffersonville, IN cop named Denver Leveritt that shows up on Live PD on Friday and Saturday nights. They call him the human lie detector.
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                              • Clayton_Wetter
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 16671

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                                Seems strange that I actually agree with you on something........
                                And you admitted it!!!! hahahahaaha

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