Low car count should we be concerned this early in the season

[zach51]

First of all, I was talking about real sprint cars, no wings. But even if you want to include wings, outside of the Kings Royal and Knoxville there are only about 2-3 other races for sprint cars that pay $20K. The majority are $3K, $4K, $5K to win not including the WOO. USAC pay sucks. Would you like to contribute anything useful to the conversation or not?

[Josh Bayko]

First of all, I was talking about real sprint cars, no wings. But even if you want to include wings, outside of the Kings Royal and Knoxville there are only about 2-3 other races for sprint cars that pay $20K. The majority are $3K, $4K, $5K to win not including the WOO. USAC pay sucks. Would you like to contribute anything useful to the conversation or not?

Weekly sprint tracks pay more money than weekly late model tracks.

[powerslide]

No your thinking of Fayetville and I believe that was the Willie Milliken deal.

JD won the 20k Crown race at Lancaster in the Barry Wright car back when AES was a sponsor. They only had 15 cars there JD and Bowyer's 2 cars being the only notables I remember. It was promoted heavily on 4m all winter that year nearly daily as being one of the biggest paying races in the south and no one showed up.

He's talking about the guy with the american racer tires that the lab didn't have the latest bench mark because either they didn't ask or american racer didn't send it. Relatively no name, i honestly can't remember his name now i think he was number 1. Maybe autry? Scott autry? I'm not from that area so if he is known around those parts cool, i'm in the Terry phillips, Tony jackson and Stovall area.

[powerslide]

I can't figure out how sprint car racing is so healthy. They get tons of cars and run for very, very low money. I suppose the wear and tear (unless you crash) is a lot lower than late models. In a sprint car, if you trash a frame you can get a bare frame for what $3000 or so and build it in the parking lot of a walmart in 3 hours.

Not sure where sprint car racing is healthy but around here they are now going from 2barrel 360 spec head rules to 305 rules with injection and splitting the car counts with non-wing different motor rules as well.

I don't understand how the racing is going to be any better... I've not seen what HP the 305's are putting out but they have flat tappets and 50 less CI but not restricted by carbs. Each time you cut HP it becomes that much more important to have every last hp more so with a huge wing on the top.

[CarolinaDirt]

He's talking about the guy with the american racer tires that the lab didn't have the latest bench mark because either they didn't ask or american racer didn't send it. Relatively no name, i honestly can't remember his name now i think he was number 1. Maybe autry? Scott autry? I'm not from that area so if he is known around those parts cool, i'm in the Terry phillips, Tony jackson and Stovall area.

Willie Milliken is #1

[EvelB7]

Scott Autry is correct, got tossed at the big Lancaster race and later decided his tires were good.

[powerslide]

Willie Milliken is #1

He won a WoO and was tossed on tires.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

He won a WoO and was tossed on tires.

If im correct that was at fayettville

[Slinging]

The crate and 2 barrel/limited isn't any better...i know 1 guy at my local that has $28,000(Clements) in a 2brl steel motor running for about $600 to win each week...another guy has over $20,000 in his (Vic Hill Motor)....so u can't say taking Supers away will help..

[a25rjr]

The crate and 2 barrel/limited isn't any better...i know 1 guy at my local that has $28,000(Clements) in a 2brl steel motor running for about $600 to win each week...another guy has over $20,000 in his (Vic Hill Motor)....so u can't say taking Supers away will help..

Yep.....plenty of steelhead NLMS type motors are running $20-25k in my area!

[grt74]

The crate and 2 barrel/limited isn't any better...i know 1 guy at my local that has $28,000(Clements) in a 2brl steel motor running for about $600 to win each week...another guy has over $20,000 in his (Vic Hill Motor)....so u can't say taking Supers away will help..

yup, and at that point they could run supers, too my point exactly, so why do we have a lesser class of lates???

[mcarter815]

The problem with any form of racing is that you can't put the innovation genie back in the bottle. People will never stop innovating in their pursuit of that extra hundredth of a second, and those with the deepest pockets see no problem with how much money it costs. It's part of the reason NASCAR is in the shape it's in.

The innovation is what makes racing interesting.

[Barbecueboy]

He's talking about the guy with the american racer tires that the lab didn't have the latest bench mark because either they didn't ask or american racer didn't send it. Relatively no name, i honestly can't remember his name now i think he was number 1. Maybe autry? Scott autry? I'm not from that area so if he is known around those parts cool, i'm in the Terry phillips, Tony jackson and Stovall area.

Yep, was Scott Autry........real good regional guy.

[Barbecueboy]

He won a WoO and was tossed on tires.

Yep, another race we found out who the winner was a week after the flag dropped.

Win went to Shirley I believe.

Wasn't it exciting?

[Dante Toledo, OH]

I can't figure out how sprint car racing is so healthy. They get tons of cars and run for very, very low money. I suppose the wear and tear (unless you crash) is a lot lower than late models. In a sprint car, if you trash a frame you can get a bare frame for what $3000 or so and build it in the parking lot of a walmart in 3 hours.

Most tracks that run 410's weekly pay double what weekly late model tracks pay.