Originally posted by Shiny Side Up 18
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NASCAR may be sold?? Legit report!
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If they sell it, I’m sure they will, I hope it’s to someone who will take NASCAR back about 10-15 years. Them mile and a half copy cat tracks, poof. Bring back Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, unscrew Bristol, go to tracks with character. Get rid of the current way of keeping points, maybe go to almost a qualifying, heat, 150-300 mile races. It certainly needs changed.
Because the product now just isn’t good. It just isn’t good entertainment. And I really hope they get it back to a good product that has an entertainment value.Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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Why would a retired driver want to come out of retirement to help their old employer out of a jam ?Originally posted by Zonks32x View Post
Better yet...put their retired guys on tour.
Kenseth, Lil' E, Stewart, Carl Edwards, Gordon. Let them travel town to town and battle the "locals" at a track near you.
That kind of logic just doesn't seem to make sense to me, I know when I retire I'm gonna relax and enjoy the Fruits of my Labor.
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Kenseth re-signed with Rousch already and is do back by Kansas driving the #6. None of the other retired drivers you mentioned want to come back or can't. LiL' E can't risk scrambling his noodle. Gordon has back issues and Edwards saw the light after LIL' E struggles and his own mega hit at Homestead. I don't mind 1.5 milers and I love Charlotte, but every track can't or shouldn't be a Charlotte rubber stamp. Put Atlanta back like it was. Go back to the formula that worked so well in the 80's and 90's, before play offs and bonehead chases with special help me out points. Put the lucky dog to sleep too.Originally posted by Zonks32x View PostWake me up when Nascar makes Bristol a dirt track.
Until then....zzzzzzzzzz!!!
The best thing Nascrap could do to breathe life into tar car racing is have their 40 "stars" go race midweek short-track events every week across the country.
Better yet...put their retired guys on tour.
Kenseth, Lil' E, Stewart, Carl Edwards, Gordon. Let them travel town to town and battle the "locals" at a track near you.
The hell with the 1.5 mile cookie cutter horse manure they put on TV each week.“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.†— The Dude
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So many things wrong with NASCAR, where do you start with repairing it?
1. The face of the sport dies on track in the biggest race 17 years ago and has struggled since to have another driver to lead the series out of the dark abyss. Fan base (and Nascar) clinged to the hope that Junior could consistently win races and championships to resurrect the series....no dice. Fan base is now cheering for Kyle Busch out of desperation for a new leader to follow to the promised land.
2. Any given race has 12-16 cars on the lead lap by race end, with few cautions, most built in by the segment endings.
3. Bad on-track product = bad TV product = Doesn't make fans buy tickets and goto races = Attendance and revenue drops. I've went to the last 2 Daytona 500's, and had a great experience taking it all in, but the race itself is boring in person.
I think as dirt fans we should be thankful that the biggest (and some would say lone) problem it has is controlling costs. I get that local racing has more issues than traveling series no doubt. On track product, for the most part, is good for the touring series races. Car count is good.
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I really dont feel like nascar has done too bad with their rules changes. Yes purists get upset, but stage racing gives something to look forward to for as miserably long as some of these napcar races are. The chase keeps more drivers relevant longer although i didnt exactly agree with if you have a pulse you make the chase now.
I just feel like nascar abandoning its root region, taking big money that has now pretty much abandoned it, and going to all these cookie cutter and bigger tracks is killing the sport more than any rules they come up with or change. And the major problem they have is tracks. Nascar can not change tracks right now due to who owns the current tracks. That model is the death of nascar, not the rules IMO.
My nascar fix would be half the races take place on 1.25 mile and smaller, add another road course (make sure its like sonoma and Watkins Glen, not road america), and mix up the race formats. How about twin 200s at bristol one during the day, throw a tailgate party, then another at night. Lets go to iowa speedway and run heat races to determine feature lineup (all in the same day). Make these races the individual events they should be again, not just another 1 of 36 dates on the schedule.Last edited by tb1545; 05-08-2018, 11:38 AM.
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Number 1. The people in charge don't take any responsibility for messing it up. For 50 years they awarded the championship one way, one points system. Then they changed it 10 times in about 15 years. That was stupid. Then they took dates away from tracks that had been around for ever that had some unique characteristics and built tracks that look like other tracks in Chicago, LA, Texas, Vegas, Kansas etc. now we have the stupid segments and automatic cautions. Etc. then they did the stupid "car of tomorrow" thing and every car looked exactly the same. Same car with different headlight stickers. That's stupid. A lot of fans used to be diehard Chevy or diehard Ford fans. Now it doesn't matter they all look the same. In the late 80's Elliot's thunderbird looked just like the ones in every showroom. Earnharts Monte Carlo SS looked like the ones in the showroom. In the last 15 years these cars look nothing like the ones you can buy. Those are all things that need fixed to the way they were. 2. They lost a lot of big names in a short period of time. After Dale Sr died they also lost Rusty, Jarret, Rudd, Bobby and Terry, Mark Martin, Jeff Burton. And not to long after that blow they lost Stewart, Gordon, Edwards, Kenseth, Bifle. Etc. that's a lot of drivers that do commercials and have there face on products that are not easy to replace. 3. Go back to your roots. Saturday night racing style. Do it the way every track in the country does it. Look at Eldora, Knoxville, Fairbary etc. make these races a big event. I will use Bristol for my example. This is what I think would bring people back. Friday night hot laps for trucks, Bush, Cup start at 4:30. Send them out in groups of 10 you got 5 laps to shake em down. 15 minutes after hot laps Truck qualifying followed by Bush and cup. Quick time guys come out pull a invert for heats 20 lap heat races for trucks, 25 laps for Bush, 30 for cup. Take four from each heat. Saturday night run B mains. Take a couple from the B's have a couple provisional for whatever highest in points not in and fastest time not in. Send the rest to the hauler. 75 lap a main for trucks 100 lap for Bush and 150 for cup. Lots of good short races packed into 2 nights. And a bonus is the young kids in the Truck and Bush series are racing the same night in front of the big crowd. They put on good races and earn a fan base. Instead of racing Saturday at noon while 30,000 race fans are outside drinking and playing corn hole. All one show all one ticket 2 great nights of racing. 4. If any announcer says overtime or playoffs they are fired. And instead of the ex driver commentators let's get Jonny Gibson from outlaw Sprints, give these guys some nick names, and some enthusiasm. Sell pit passes, let the fans see the pits, the haulers, etc like NHRA style or Eldora. 5. Stop telling us about a aging fan base and young fans not interested. Millions of people go short track racing every weekendGo Buckeyes!!!
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They need to get out of the south, there is tracks out there in every state that would pack the stands. Problem is, the men's club doesn't want that. Nascrap owns 12, Humpy owns how many ? Burton Smith, Penske, they control nascrap. I would shorten the races, throw out this stage garbage, stop the fuel distance race, take all this aero crap and make the driver part of the reason a guy wins a race.
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make them were you have to drive them .Cut the Dam off the front. cut the S in 1/2. Make the springs were the have to flex. were drafting works and the drivers will have to drive them. If there 53 cars start them all.
And if you turn someone and cause a yellow you go to the rear.
No wind tunnel testing. No jig testing. Millions $ savedLast edited by Cardirt0; 05-08-2018, 02:52 PM.
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