Mt.Rushmore of Latemodels. VOTE

[Mindwalker]

Sadly most on 4m today haven't a clue,

What in tarnation are you talking about when you have SS on here daly ?? Get a clue dude!

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

what in tarnation are you talking about when you have ss on here daly ?? Get a clue dude!

^^^^ says the 4m guru ^^^^

[CageFaraday]

tell us how great working with Joe Garrison was??????

Enough, I'm not carrying this any further. I posted who I like and respect that would fit into a list of 4, with a nod to those who are no longer with us. I think Mount Rushmore is more appropriate for founders and pioneers than the latest ones to reach the summit, but that is MY opinion. Moving on...

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I freely admit I will never step foot in Shinnston, WV. At the beginning of this thread it was asked that everyone be respectful of others opinions and NOT to disrupt the thread. I posted the men I thought in my view were the best and made no mention of who I don't like. Then two gentlemen made it a point to single me out because I'm not a fanboy of the West Virginia Fruit Company, so I made reference to that in the post you quoted. I make it a point these days to skip over and not respond to threads involving the aforementioned group. I don't have anything nice to say about them so I choose not to say anything. I like who I like and I try and stick to being positive where I can and leave my negative feelings and experiences unspoken. I propose we move ahead and leave the past in the past. Feel free to call me out in the future if you see me posting anything unflattering about them and I'll take it down. I personally feel that their have been other builders who actually were more innovative than the group who will remain unnamed.

Early in my career I had the good fortune to meet and work with several extremely intelligent men who taught me about dirt late models. Frank McClendon who founded Custom Chassis back in the 80's was the first to whom I was exposed and still use his scaling methods and weight principles to this day, even during my karting days. Frank built a plethora of different chassis designs that won many of the early crown jewels. The first car I ever was exposed to from Custom was a torsion bar car, followed by a reverse canti-lever, a 3-link and a 4-link and most were under-slung front and rear like a sprint car chassis. Next came CJ Rayburn, then JigAlo, then Mastersbilt and GRT. During my time with Carrera Racing Shocks I met and worked with many of the greats, 2 are in the HOF(Simmons & Moore). So my experiences are reflected in my choices for Mount Rushmore, who I admire and who are my friends, I left unspoken those who don't impress me.

All good man, I’ll leave it alone. I respect your response and wishes, and will do my best to not be a you know what.

Believe you mean Larry Moore, his book was great. He used to drive for Stan Hover, who is based in NE Ohio. My Dad had some of his cars built at Hovers, and knew them both(Stan Sr and Jr). Don’t think he had interactions with Larry though.

[CageFaraday]

Yes, it was Larry Moore. For a brief time towards the end, D!ck Anderson hired him to consult at Carrera. I missed working with Charlie Swartz by about a year when I was there. I love Larry's book and Jack Hewitt's too.

[Raceready]

Oh memories of Stan Hover ! He is responsible for the N.E. local legend Ron Davies claim to fame. He was the 1st in that area to have one of the truly totally shop manufactured chassis with the tubular A frames without any of the old stock parts etc. He was a quite the local terror until everyone started to drift away from the home built chassis and started to grow to the next level.