Why are crate late models even a thing?

[mcarter815]

Most of those "lightweight" parts are just snake oil. You can spend the money on them if you want, but most of them won't win you a race.

[ThebigE]

Why is this a topic of discussion every other month?

[mcarter815]

Why is this a topic of discussion every other month?

Why do we have so many repetitive Bloomquist or Pierce threads? Crates are a popular bogeyman.

[Centeroff]

If someone doesn’t find a way to get the cost down or some major endorsement deals, I think it will all go to crate racing. It’s already happening in all forms of racing. For instance, when I was a kid racing go karts, 2 cycles and a 5hp Briggs and Stratton were all over the country. The cost of a national level Briggs went for around 2k in 2015. Now you still have kart racing all over the country but everything went to a sealed “clone” engine to cut costs. These team owners are starting to understand the cost without winning and they are taking notice. I think it will also force the chassis builders, engine guys and parts manufacturers to cut cost also. Unless you have Landers cash, your feeling that knot in your pocket get smaller.

[kntcrshr 666]

Duh crates are a lower class.

Of course crates are a lower class. My point was I'm not opposed to a limited late model type class. Just not crates.

[kntcrshr 666]

Might as well just run a b-mod at that point.

Better than crates

[kntcrshr 666]

My biggest pet peeve with crate late models are the guys who "cant afford" an open motor but show up in a $250,000 hauler with 2 cars.

Yep! Modified guys are horrible about this. Paying help and picking on working guys that actually belong in the mods

[moonshine]

When crate racing came out it was a great class. The problem is now you pay 15 to 20 grand for a competive motor. You have almost what a spec engine cost and run for half the purse. It’s good for young drivers that are learning but doesn’t make much sense for a old guy trying to save a dollar.

[mcarter815]

Better than crates

Most of those b-mods have a 602 crate in them.

[mcarter815]

Anyone spending 15-20 grand on a crate is throwing away their money.

[play4kps]

If you support Crates, then you are also supporting the end of weekly SLM....or maybe even any LM races at all unless your track can get Lucas, WOO, ect.

If you support Lucas oil or WOO you are supporting the end of weekly late model racing!

[Josh Bayko]

If you support Crates, then you are also supporting the end of weekly SLM....or maybe even any LM races at all unless your track can get Lucas, WOO, ect.

If you support Lucas oil or WOO you are supporting the end of weekly late model racing!

Lucas and WoO aren’t nearly as responsible for the death of weekly SLM racing as regional series are. Every region has at least two regional series.

[MI Dirt Fan]

If you support Lucas oil or WOO you are supporting the end of weekly late model racing!

So if Lucas or WoO come to your local track your not going to go? Should a track just run the tour races and separate races for the local LM guys?

[Krooser]

Race em all together...fast cars to the tail. Pay in the dash, heats, b mains and feature....spread the money around.

The fans could care less about wide bores, crates, two barrels, four barrels, tire compounds, wheel offsets, etc. They want action not guys who start upfront winning every week.

This ain't racing it's show bidness...bring back trophy girls, bikini contests, big wheel races, kids race car rides, back up races, spectator drags, thrill shows, guys blowing themselves up on a 5 gallon bucket..all the stuff that worked in the past.

And get the promoters off Facebook and on the streets actually promoting.

[kntcrshr 666]

What the hell's the difference? If you can afford to run a super late model, then run it. If you can afford to run a crate late model, then run it. Racing is expensive. Hell street stocks are expensive to run. Let's face it, the average Joe down the street making 15 dollars an hour, and trying to raise a family just can't do it. My self can't in know way afford to race a super late model so we are going to run a crate late model. But I sure as hell am not going to be crying because I can't afford to run a super. Car counts are hurting in most places I see. That includes street stocks and all the way up. I wish we all made 100 dollars an hour so we all could be racing what we really want to, but that's not how life is. Ok every one pile on and start beating on me!!!

That is exactly the problem. Street stocks are supposed to be for middle to lower blue collar people, maybe even people who live in a trailer park and have almost nothing. Nowadays people are trying to turn every class into super late models. The least ump could do is put 6" tires on street stocks so you could hopefully be able to pull an old engine off a pickup truck and put it in your street stock. That's why they were called street stocks, because it was literally old street car parts