Is the Prairie Dirt Classic a Crown Jewel

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  • Crossbones
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 812

    #76
    Some on here thinking its ignorant to not think of the DTWC as a crown jewel seems stupid to me. I don't think the DTWC is anymore of a crown jewel event than the show-me-100 these days. That race died after 1997 and the show-me-100 after 2009.

    I agree with the poster above that there can only be one crown jewel win and thats the world 100. But there is other important events and to me what makes an event important is that it has to have a long history, has to be at the same track, has to have been run every year, has to pay good, has to have a distinctive atmosphere (this is something that the drivers and especially the fans create, they create a sacred place), known for memorable moments and great races.

    IMO the top four races are

    World 100 - The crown jewel
    Jackson 100 (it pays well enough)
    Prairie Dirt Classic
    USA Nationals

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    • Snake X3
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 1526

      #77
      I would think one defining criteria would be that the race is big enough that it doesn't need a support class.

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      • cgrace
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 903

        #78
        Personally, I don't think FALS needs a support class for the PDC.

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #79
          Originally posted by Crossbones View Post
          Some on here thinking its ignorant to not think of the DTWC as a crown jewel seems stupid to me. I don't think the DTWC is anymore of a crown jewel event than the show-me-100 these days. That race died after 1997 and the show-me-100 after 2009.

          I agree with the poster above that there can only be one crown jewel win and thats the world 100. But there is other important events and to me what makes an event important is that it has to have a long history, has to be at the same track, has to have been run every year, has to pay good, has to have a distinctive atmosphere (this is something that the drivers and especially the fans create, they create a sacred place), known for memorable moments and great races.

          IMO the top four races are

          World 100 - The crown jewel
          Jackson 100 (it pays well enough)
          Prairie Dirt Classic
          USA Nationals
          The Jackson 100 is not even in the top 25 big races.

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          • Highside Hustler25
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 12920

            #80
            Originally posted by cgrace View Post
            Personally, I don't think FALS needs a support class for the PDC.
            They don't but the mods put on a good show and it adds a little bit more racing action for the fans.
            8/13/16

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            • dch191
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 458

              #81
              Originally posted by Snake X3 View Post
              I would think one defining criteria would be that the race is big enough that it doesn't need a support class.
              There’s no such thing as a support class in racing.

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #82
                So, the Dream paying 100k for 20 plus years is not a crown jewel.....hmmmmm!
                Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                • Josh Bayko
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 8737

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Pennsboro23 View Post
                  I'm with you on the Hillbilly.
                  No WoO races on Labor Day weekend this year should make for a great field this edition of the Hillbilly. I am definitely planning on making the trip down this year.
                  Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                  Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                  • Swampy121
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 326

                    #84
                    Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                    So, the Dream paying 100k for 20 plus years is not a crown jewel.....hmmmmm!
                    I agree that the Dream is a crown jewel, but if we are just looking at payout then wouldn't that mean that the Dirt Million is our newest jewel?

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                    • cdustyr1
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 413

                      #85
                      Trophy

                      Originally posted by FANSFund View Post
                      Hands down... talk with the drivers and they easily define with four criteria:

                      1.) History - drivers will talk about being on next years t-shirt with a the list of HOF drivers that are listed on the back of the event t-shirt
                      2.) Trophy - you will hear drivers talk about "I want the globe (Eldora or DTWC), Eagle (USA Nationals), trophy with the flags (US and Confederate for North/South) etc" and the prestige that goes with having that trophy in your trophy case.
                      3.) Payout - long before some of the newer events, the crown jewels have a long history of payouts of $40K, $50K, etc. as well as high "to-start" purse. Those promoters took a huge gamble by paying out those purses long ago.
                      4.) Venue - you hear drivers talk about big races won at the venue by some of dirt racings biggest names and the biggest events.

                      Bottom line... you combine the four above and you have history as the main theme of events that were won by the sports biggest names (regional, national and sometimes local).

                      Fans do not define Crown Jewels - drivers define these races by ones that they most want to win (reasons above) on a national level. Also, I don't think there is one Crown Jewel - what famous crown in history has ever had one jewel? The idea around Crown Jewels is several prestigious races and right now we have less than ten.

                      BTW... all big races need to come up with a unique trophy. FALS, I-80, Knoxville and others need to come up with an iconic trophy. A trophy from the World 100, USA Nationals, North/South 100... even the Cotton Pickin and Toilet Bowl... these are trophy's you don't have to look at the plate to know what trophy the event represents. Crown Jewels should all have an iconic trophy.

                      Rich Olson
                      Minneapolis, MN

                      Rich wondering what your take was on the new PDC trophy they came up with this year with the gold shovel?

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                      • superstock79
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 261

                        #86
                        I have to agree with a few others on this post, The "CROWN JEWEL" can only be 1, there is only 1 race that can draw the highest car count CONSISTANTLY for the last almost 50 years,
                        one race that if u asked EVERY driver n late model racing, which trophy would u want over all others, they'd all respond the same, 1 race that can fill up a near 20k seat venue, 1 race that can fill up every available acre of ground around with campers,1 race that nearly every single other track n the 5 state area closes down for, 1 race that can be the TOP DOG, there is only 1 crown jewel n dirt late model racing, THE WORLD 100!

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                        • superstock79
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 261

                          #87
                          And as for the PDC, if u get outside of illinois, the PDC is just another late model show.....

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                          • KAOS
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 230

                            #88
                            Really this only comes down to if you go to the race or not. If its a race you like its the greatest of them all in your mind. And apparently a lot of you don't want to give anything to anyone outside the state of Oho. Look at the sprints they have the Kings Royal, Knoxville, National Open and what else the Jackson Nationals?Im glad the DLMs have enough big money races that we can debate about this stupid stuff.
                            Only in racing does a person knowingly put on a dud show, and then blames everyone else for not appreciating their dud show.

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                            • rickybrown1952
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 1448

                              #89
                              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                              Show Me was pretty cool back in the day. Now it is a hijacked name on a Lucas race that pays a little more. I don't see the big deal.
                              True Show Me 100 used to be a crown jewel but no more since it left West Plains last Show Me I attended it payed $ 41,000 that was about 11 yrs ago they pay $ 30,000 now don't think that proves out to be a crown jewel
                              I am what I am

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                              • ptown
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1906

                                #90
                                Originally posted by superstock79 View Post
                                And as for the PDC, if u get outside of illinois, the PDC is just another late model show.....
                                Good point, it’s definitely a crown jewel of Illinois.

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