Will the WoO survive??

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  • Zonks32x
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 966

    #31
    If a series...woo, lucas, whoever would like to attract more local/regional drivers to events, here's a couple suggestions for ways to do it.

    1) Don't hold events in BFE
    2) Don't hold events in areas that have NO local LM racing

    3) Visit the tracks you do well at more than once per season

    4) For tracks hosting a touring event who also run a regular LM division throughout the season
    A) 1/2 price entry fee for the local driver
    B) two free pit passes
    They're locals racing with the "big boys." They will certainly bring more than 2 people to the track for the "special" event, and this small financial gesture from the series/promoter would be a good start.

    5) Increase the min pay to start the feature by $100 for non-touring drivers. (Talking about $800 total per night). This is assuming most of the locals finish in the back 1/2 of the field.

    6) $1000 Bonus if a "local" wins the show
    Otherwise it's a $250 bonus to the highest finishing local in the show

    7) $100 bonus if a "local" wins a heat race

    8) Tire raffle/contingency. Series puts the name of all local/regional drivers entered in a hat and draws one or two names. Winner(s) gets one brand new Hoosier racing tire.

    All these teams have to buy a set of tires, so Hoosier can endear themselves by giving away 1 or 2 tires. They're still way ahead.

    9) Next year Pass.
    Highest finishing local/regional driver gets entry fee waved for the next year's series race at that track

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    • Mod Runner
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 723

      #32
      You do not always need local racers. Most fans are pleased to see 7 to 8 of the top World of Outlaw racers at a track in their part of the country. You only need 5 to 6 closely matched cars to put on a good race. 19 cars is a good field.

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      • BirkyTime15B
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 756

        #33
        Some of the scheduling seems a little crazy to me. I don’t race for a living though. With that said I’ll be at Davenport Speedway supporting racing when the WoO Late Models are there on 7/24.

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        • Highside Hustler25
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 12911

          #34
          Originally posted by Mod Runner View Post
          You do not always need local racers. Most fans are pleased to see 7 to 8 of the top World of Outlaw racers at a track in their part of the country. You only need 5 to 6 closely matched cars to put on a good race. 19 cars is a good field.
          I can somewhat agree with your post other than that when there is only 19 or less entries, the fan kind of gets screwed by only getting 3 or possibly 2 heats, and no B Main. Unless the admission price is reduced, the paying fan is really not getting his or hers moneys worth.

          I wonder what the gate admission was at Blackhills the other night with only 15 entries. 2 heat races and a Feature.
          8/13/16

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          • BigDaddy84
            Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 82

            #35
            I've thought if the series sees that they don't have many cars that they could extend the feature to 75 laps. That way the fans get some more racing.

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            • CageFaraday
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 685

              #36
              I'll buy that for a dollar!

              Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
              So regional guys spending 70-80k for a car, plus most have toterhomes, are not going to race because of a $1000 set of tires?.....aint buying it!
              I don't know of a single "Toter home" that adds 200HP to the engine or takes away the extra weight of an all steel spec engine... Do you? You can't race the truck.
              “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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              • Sanguinary72
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 6

                #37
                So here is my take. Black Hills is a WISSOTA track and has a modest group of late models for the normal shows. A few days before, the track had 20 WISSOTA lates running. What happened, that I know of, is several of those drivers contacted WoO only to be told that they could not run. With that, some of those cars there on Friday headed home or otherwise. Fast forward to late Monday morning. I'm talking with Devin Moran and telling him about this. He was confused on the policy and calls up, who I could only assume, was Matt Curl. Devin gets told the official policy is no, they have to be completely legal. However, they would let it slide for the night due to location and other factors. At this point, I pass on what I know to other drivers but the news came too little to late. Lots of cars were tore apart and generally not ready for the show. Many of these cares were coming off an 8 night tour. I could almost guarantee there would have been more cars had the information been dispersed. That is why posts are showing up saying drivers can race at these other tracks. Granted, the cars gained would not have been super lates, but so what. For those so quick to say they shouldn't race there, it was designed to give the drivers some vacation time in the Black Hills. I just wanted to clear up that there is local late model racing. There is the ability to have decent car counts. This deal ended up being the perfect storm of communication errors, even though there sure seems to be a lot of people on here who know the racing area and its specifics.....

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                • Krooser
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3117

                  #38
                  The Wissota spec engine has a Brodix aluminum head...

                  Doesn't WoO allow a guy to run three events per year without the upgraded safety equipment? That's how it was presented when the change occurred.
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                  • Josh Bayko
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 8734

                    #39
                    Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                    So regional guys spending 70-80k for a car, plus most have toterhomes, are not going to race because of a $1000 set of tires?.....aint buying it!
                    The WoO tends to run tire rules that include whatever the locals run. Tires shouldn’t really be an issue.
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                    • Bubstr
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3734

                      #40
                      Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                      So regional guys spending 70-80k for a car, plus most have toterhomes, are not going to race because of a $1000 set of tires?.....aint buying it!
                      I can remember, saving my Nickle's and dimes, buying a brand new 62 Pontiac Cat, with a 421 and 4 speed. I couldn't afford to drive it every day. A lot of racers didn't figure on the day to day cost. It can get overwhelming. The start up costs are covered by selling everything you have accumulated. Corvette, boat, camper and motorcycle. When they try to sell off, they find the wife isn't staying for another try also. A divorce costs more than tires. It still comes down to what straw broke the camel's back. Does it matter if you spent that straw on a Toterhome or a tire?

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                      • minhhuyen1994s
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 8

                        #41
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                        • jlacey
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1066

                          #42
                          ^ Yeah what that guy said ^

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                          • jlacey
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1066

                            #43
                            Can any1 translate hieroglyphics?

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                            • Swampy121
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 326

                              #44
                              Originally posted by jlacey View Post
                              ^ Yeah what that guy said ^
                              The post was gibberish and it still had censored words 😂

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                              • Swampy121
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 326

                                #45
                                Originally posted by jlacey View Post
                                Can any1 translate hieroglyphics?
                                Call the hotline at the bottom 😉

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