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  • powerslide
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2696

    #46
    They need to run the tire rule that the local tracks run and not force the locals to buy tires, goes for lucas and WoO. But that might give the locals a fighting chance we can't do that.

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    • Josh Bayko
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 8734

      #47
      Originally posted by powerslide View Post
      They need to run the tire rule that the local tracks run and not force the locals to buy tires, goes for lucas and WoO. But that might give the locals a fighting chance we can't do that.
      The WoO typically does include whatever the local tires are for their races. Their tire rules change from race to race.
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      • Krooser
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 3117

        #48
        And who sez you have to buy new tires? I would imagine several teams would be glad to sell or give away WoO/Lucas compound tires to the little guys. One new RR and youre set...
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        • powerslide
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2696

          #49
          Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
          The WoO typically does include whatever the local tires are for their races. Their tire rules change from race to race.
          Not include, conform to the current rules the tracks are running. Its a lot easier for the touring guys to keep up with and afford all these sets of tires and have a chance to use them again than it is a local once a year.

          We all know the tire game can put you at a huge disadvantage. When we could run 1300's or wrs2 but didn't have experience on 1300's so took them off too soon and got smoked. Not to mention they probably have 3 or more versions of the 1300 that are allowed.

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          • dmr37
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 565

            #50
            It translates as:

            "Good deal on used tires - call hotline. Bloomer is full of (not a nice word)"

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            • LMNED10
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 131

              #51
              They need to stick to a two tire rule and be done with and many of the locals at the tracks can compete

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #52
                Originally posted by LMNED10 View Post
                They need to stick to a two tire rule and be done with and many of the locals at the tracks can compete
                Their rules dictate 2-3 different compounds , but most are only gonna use 2.
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                • AnonymousNate
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 571

                  #53
                  that is a shame! To turn racers away. Then turn back around and want same ones to fill in spaces! SMH

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                  • jog49
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2551

                    #54
                    The person who started this thread apparently has never been to a Lucas Oil race. They aren't exactly dragging 35 cars around the country. 10 regulars versus 14 regulars doesn't carry much in the way of bragging rights.
                    Dirt SLM racing looks to be following NASCAR down the crapper.

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                    • MI Dirt Fan
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 8806

                      #55
                      Originally posted by jog49 View Post
                      The person who started this thread apparently has never been to a Lucas Oil race. They aren't exactly dragging 35 cars around the country. 10 regulars versus 14 regulars doesn't carry much in the way of bragging rights.
                      Dirt SLM racing looks to be following NASCAR down the crapper.
                      It was never about Lucas. The title of the topic said WoO.

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                      • FANSFund
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 76

                        #56
                        Again, whether you guys want to admit it... it comes down to tires, motor, travel costs and a weeknight event. The tire and motor issue are huge for our local guys. And from the WoO Tire Bulletin - the tire rule for the events for Black Hills, Grand Forks and Ogilvie are an open tire rule (see below) in an area where hard compound tires on all four corners are the rule. Drivers just cannot buy different tires and just bolt them on. Their HP difference, weight of motor and softer tires completely change the cars set-up based upon what they normally run. Most of our guys would be guessing on set-ups. Why would our local racers spend over $1,000 in tires, fuel, travel costs, wear and tear on a race car to make a couple hundred bucks in start money? Not when you have local specials running the same night when you can win $3,000 and run your normal stuff. If your not from the Midwest, you just don't understand what a big deal it is for our racers to race against open competition Dirt Late Models. No where else in the country (other than maybe the West Coast) has such a difference.

                        WoO ran an open tire rule according to its tire bulletin

                        World of Outlaws Craftsman Late Models
                        TIRE BULLETIN - Starting Friday June 29th – Drivers will be allowed to Change Tires at anytime
                        Dubuque Speedway – July 6th, 2018 –
                        Left Front, Right Front & Left Rear – Hoosier LM 20’s
                        Right Rear – Hoosier LM 20’s, LM 40, WRS-2
                        Davenport Speedway – July 24th, 2018 –
                        Left Front, Right Front & Left Rear – Hoosier LM 20, LM 30s, W30s
                        Right Rear – Hoosier LM 20, LM 30s, W30s, LM 40, WRS-2
                        Plymouth Dirt Track – July 30th, 2018 –
                        Left Front, Right Front & Left Rear – Hoosier LM 30s, W30s
                        Right Rear – Hoosier LM 30s, W30s, LM 40
                        Shawano Speedway – July 31st
                        , 2018 –
                        Left Front, Right Front & Left Rear – Hoosier LM 20, LM 30s, W30s
                        Right Rear – Hoosier LM 20, LM 30s, W30s, LM 40
                        Cedar Lake Speedway – August 2, 3 & 4th, 2018 – USA 100 Weekend
                        Hoosier LM 40 on all (4) corners
                        Farley Speedway – August 6th, 2018 –
                        Left Front, Right Front, Left Rear, & Right Rear – Hoosier LM 20, LM 40 or WRS-2/55
                        The Dirt Track at Charlotte Motor Speedway – November 1, 2 & 3rd, 2018 – World Finals Weekend
                        Left Front, Right Front & Left Rear – Hoosier 1300, 1350
                        Right Rear – Hoosier 1300, 1350, 1450, D70
                        Matt Curl

                        World of Outlaws Craftsman Late Models

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                        • FANSFund
                          Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 76

                          #57
                          Lucas Oil is allowing four compounds of tires at its SD and MN events - LM20, LM40, WRS2 and W30 (this is a WISSOTA spec tire.) The issue, Lucas is allowing siping and grooving of tires which is no longer allowed for WISSOTA teams.

                          You have a soft compound tire you can run on the fronts and LR as well as siping and grooving... it is like bringing a knife to a gunfight. This type of tire rule will not promote many local drivers in our area to compete.

                          If they did an LM40, WRS2 and W30 - no grooving or siping allowed... maybe more local guys might be more willing to race.

                          Lucas Oil Tire Bulletin:

                          Tire Rule for July 17th-18th:
                          Fronts - Hoosier LM20
                          Rears - Hoosier LM40, WRS2
                          *Wissota Late Models can use Hoosier W30 but must use them on all 4 corners all night.
                          *Must use the same set of 4 tires for Time Trials, Heat Races, and B-Main.
                          *For the A-Main, competitors may use a new right rear tire.
                          *Cutting and/or siping of any tire IS allowed.

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                          • jlacey
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1066

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Swampy121 View Post
                            The post was gibberish and it still had censored words 
                            Haha i noticed that too

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