The change in Dirt Late Model bodies since 2015

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  • Returning to Dirt
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 5046

    #1

    The change in Dirt Late Model bodies since 2015



    Look at a Late Model from 2015 and one from today and note the difference.
  • racincowboy02
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1056

    #2
    Wow I never really noticed that til you mentioned it that is pretty interesting wonder why the body is shaped like that now

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    • dirty-white-boy
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 996

      #3
      because nobody enforces the rule books they print!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • callmez
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 132

        #4
        Love those two photos, Richard! Any chance you could followup with specifics on how the evolution in body styles affects the cars at speed? I'm guessing that the dished RH side of the body acts to hold the car in the corners better, the same thing a sprint car wing does -- but I'd like to hear it from somebody who knows for sure. And wouldn't it create more drag on a straightaway?
        Also what about the other body changes we've seen?

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        • billetbirdcage
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2019

          #5
          Originally posted by callmez View Post
          Love those two photos, Richard! Any chance you could followup with specifics on how the evolution in body styles affects the cars at speed? I'm guessing that the dished RH side of the body acts to hold the car in the corners better, the same thing a sprint car wing does -- but I'd like to hear it from somebody who knows for sure. And wouldn't it create more drag on a straightaway?
          Also what about the other body changes we've seen?
          Drag really isn't a concern with most any open engine cars, as downforce pretty much trumps any drag that is added. Take the rear spoiler angle, while at 60 degree's and increase to 70 degrees the drag may go up 5% but it adds 10% downforce to the rear of the car. At a certain point increasing more adds way more drag % but add only a very small % of downforce, you will take the small gain there even with the large drag increase since we have way more power then needed.

          The typical drag of a LM a few years ago, while high it still only takes 400ish HP to go 120MPH so they have plenty of power to go way faster top speed then we typically run.

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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #6
            Someone posted a pic of Overtons car last year I believe and it was all jacked up sitting in the pits. There was also another pic a few yrs back posted here from Rocket of one of a mid 2000's car next to a current car.

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            • CageFaraday
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 685

              #7
              Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
              because nobody enforces the rule books they print!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              Winner, Winner! Chicken Dinner! Its also why fewer weekly cars enter series races. If they run weekly and are legal they stand no chance against a fully cheated up touring car. That DLM council is friggin' joke, they worry about homemade suspension pieces and seats that cause concussions and entrapment, but let the obvious body rule infractions go by. I guess things will have to get worse before they get better. I firmly believe we'd be better off with "NO" national sanctioning bodies. JMO
              “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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              • play4kps
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 594

                #8
                Cage I agree fully!

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14310

                  #9
                  I got one that had a deck put in it in 2010 that looks nothing like the 2015 version.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • dalemcfan
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 954

                    #10
                    I dont see how a car like Lanigans fits in the hauler

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                    • GEAR_HEAD
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3107

                      #11
                      It's time for another Bob Memmer to get these cars under control again. Time for the second killing of the wedge cars.

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                      • Illtsate32
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 3079

                        #12
                        That was the start of these engineers getting in peoples head gassing them up about the importance of aero lol...

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                        • Kryptonite17
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2018
                          • 436

                          #13
                          Judging by Lanigan's results so far this year, maybe he should straighten it back out a bit lol.

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                          • ThebigE
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 391

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dalemcfan View Post
                            I dont see how a car like Lanigans fits in the hauler
                            We never had a toter and stacker, but our late models had always fit in our trailer since 1991. But these last couple of years they fit, but the nose brushes both sides when loading.

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                            • BloomerHarvickFan
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 546

                              #15
                              its very simple. just make them be straight. that's not that hard.
                              Give them a slight tolerance.

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