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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #31
    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
    No way will I ever buy that.
    Its 100% true. With the caveat that running a cushion consistently is NOT easy. Running a tacky line with no character however is very easy.
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    • dirty-white-boy
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 997

      #32
      Originally posted by #FALSuperman View Post
      A little idea of what the track conditions were like. https://www.facebook.com/29485006062...9784154463163/
      53 other cars didnt flip....when you drive like he did thats gonna happen

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #33
        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
        Its 100% true. With the caveat that running a cushion consistently is NOT easy. Running a tacky line with no character however is very easy.
        It's not true. You are talking about only one aspect of a track and also about a track of limited character. The dry slick so called artists require a setup that gets more power to the ground and this is done by setup, not driver. Or not "only" driver.

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        • mcarter815
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1690

          #34
          You can't just mash the throttle and go on a dry slick track like you can a tacky track. Everyone feels like Superman on a tacky track.

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          • Clayton_Wetter
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 16671

            #35
            Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
            Here is another idea for you. Don't attend
            Now TS. That wasn't nice!!!!

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #36
              Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
              You can't just mash the throttle and go on a dry slick track like you can a tacky track. Everyone feels like Superman on a tacky track.
              Everyone gets to drive too!!! So you have to beat the drivers too, not just the track itself.

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              • lazyifoto
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1587

                #37
                I remember 10 years ago that the track prep seemed better and more consistent. .smoother
                I want URR Unified Rules Racing .

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                  It's not true. You are talking about only one aspect of a track and also about a track of limited character. The dry slick so called artists require a setup that gets more power to the ground and this is done by setup, not driver. Or not "only" driver.
                  I raced very consistently for a good decade. I can tell you that keeping your tires from spinning and recognizing wheelspin is MUCH harder than letting it eat in high traction conditions.

                  A better setup can help you beat the other guy, but it is only worth a very tiny amount. On the other hand, if you have 75 more hp on a tacky track you eat their lunch.
                  Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 08-09-2018, 01:36 PM.
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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #39
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    I raced very consistently for a good decade. I can tell you that keeping your tires from spinning and recognizing wheelspin is MUCH harder than letting it eat in high traction conditions.

                    A better setup can help you beat the other guy, but it is only worth a very tiny amount. On the other hand, if you have 75 more hp on a tacky track you eat their lunch.
                    We both have our bias. It bet you would have liked to have that extra 75 horse. haha

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14324

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                      We both have our bias. It bet you would have liked to have that extra 75 horse. haha
                      When I drove for other people some, I did. It was nice.
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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #41
                        You need to go back and read some old interviews from your hero Scott where he talks about qualifying heros at Eldora being in the way once racing started because they had courage and engine but no skill.
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                        • davis2902
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 527

                          #42
                          Originally posted by #FALSuperman View Post
                          A little idea of what the track conditions were like. https://www.facebook.com/29485006062...9784154463163/
                          That (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit hoop looks to be in bad shape......

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                          • ImCryn2
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 885

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                            No way will I ever buy that.
                            lol most any driver will tell you the same thing. unless they are one of the throttle jockeys.

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                            • ImCryn2
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 885

                              #44
                              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                              You need to go back and read some old interviews from your hero Scott where he talks about qualifying heros at Eldora being in the way once racing started because they had courage and engine but no skill.
                              Bingo! When car and throttle control are required the good drivers finesse their way to the front.

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                              • brsteg
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1590

                                #45
                                Drivers are no different than fans; if it isn't to suit them and their advantage they are going to b!tch about it.
                                Guy with big motor wants a heavy track, guy with a shock deal wants a slick track. Guy with both wants heads up format on a track that's hard to pass and easy on equipment.

                                I used to really like the hammer down tracks; but those don't produce good racing anymore and I blame aero more than anything. If it's completely slicked off and blowing dust, you can't get enough power down to make the moves you need to make and pass someone slower.

                                The best type of track going now for about any class is one that slicks off in the middle but has a slight cushion up top and a little moisture to find on the very bottom still.

                                About the only tracks that can produce this perfect racing surface are the tracks that rework the surface once or twice a night. Which means everyone b!tches about tractor shows and down time.
                                "The Wise One"

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