Weiss (illegal car) transparancy

[MI Dirt Fan]

In a situation like this, what would make more sense, would be to have a clause in the rules that allow older cars built before the rule change to be grandfathered in, provided the team could prove the car was built and bought that way, before the rule change went into affect. Teams with Newer chassis which were built with the larger tube diameter, who have to have the tubing size they were built with. This would make perfect sense, as it's highly unlikely any team would want to run an older car, just to be able to run very slightly smaller door bars. And it would mean that any little guys who had these older cars, would not be suddenly faced with a large expense of having to buy a brand new car or have the older one modified and upgraded to conform.

I think IMCA did that a few yrs ago atleast with thier mods.

[Mod Runner]

I would think the car could have been made legal for the race by installing a plate on the outside of the bars. The car would then be safe to race.

[hucktyson]

The piece of plate was already required

[Mams]

May have missed it but is the Lucas rule for diameter of this specific piece of tubing the same as WRG?

[Hollis]

People cheat and get caught. Everyone knows the World inspection is tuff. Don't matter if you got by all year and it wasn't found. If you bought an illegal car 'then whose fault is that? This isn't T-Ball.

[CageFaraday]

People cheat and get caught. Everyone knows the World inspection is tuff. Don't matter if you got by all year and it wasn't found. If you bought an illegal car 'then whose fault is that? This isn't T-Ball.

Have you sustained a head injury? Having your car obsoleted by a rule change isn't exactly what I call cheating. Also, the rule infraction wasn't discovered by normal inspection, it was revealed by a competitor to the inspector. When the car was purchased/built it wasn't illegal. No this isn't T-ball and it's not NASCAR yet either, but cr@p like this is why many like myself have chosen to walk away and pursue other things.

[Doc88D]

I have looked through the WRG rules past 2013. I cant find any "Rule Change" to obsolete a chassis. The minimum tubing requirements haven't been changed as far back as 2013. Most changes are with bolt on safety equipment and working components.

[Base_Fuel]

The rules have not changed. The car has never been legal. It was not the door bars either it was the Halo bar that was to small in diameter.

[dirty-white-boy]

The rules have not changed. The car has never been legal. It was not the door bars either it was the Halo bar that was to small in diameter.

If you are indeed correct then the question remains the same. Why was it legal for every other race leading up the DQ? Including a $50,000 crown jewel win!!!!!!!!!!

Sure makes you question the inspection process in this 'sport'

[ALLDIRT]

The rules have not changed. The car has never been legal. It was not the door bars either it was the Halo bar that was to small in diameter.

( Oh ) , well that will keep it from making weight . humm .

[Clayton_Wetter]

I don't know so I am asking. Is this car that failed inspection, the same car that won the North/South?

This needs to be answered.

Nobody knows or are afraid to say????

[billetbirdcage]

If you are indeed correct then the question remains the same. Why was it legal for every other race leading up the DQ? Including a $50,000 crown jewel win!!!!!!!!!!

Sure makes you question the inspection process in this 'sport'

it's no different then them not enforcing the Right side body has to be straight with in 1" tolerance. They just don't look at bar diameter and thus it was missed or just ignored, but from what I'm told Eldora warned Scott about it and told him to fix which he eventually did. Weiss's car just wasn't for whatever reason. Stuff gets by tech all the time.





Clearly illegal but most of the cars where this way.



90% of the things that get caught are not because of tech, but because another racer told tech about it. You rarely need to worry about the tech guy, it gets found because of other racers telling tech. Always been that way and always will, racers police the other racers more then the actual tech guys ever have.

It is supposed to be the same car Ricky used, but you can't take a win away from him as there is no way to prove it was in fact that car so..... Just like a guy that wins a bunch then gets caught cheating you can only D/Q that win and suspend or whatever but can't really take away previous wins. But fans/racers may put an * by the wins.

[Josh Bayko]

it's no different then them not enforcing the Right side body has to be straight with in 1" tolerance. They just don't look at bar diameter and thus it was missed or just ignored, but from what I'm told Eldora warned Scott about it and told him to fix which he eventually did. Weiss's car just wasn't for whatever reason. Stuff gets by tech all the time.





Clearly illegal but most of the cars where this way.



90% of the things that get caught are not because of tech, but because another racer told tech about it. You rarely need to worry about the tech guy, it gets found because of other racers telling tech. Always been that way and always will, racers police the other racers more then the actual tech guys ever have.

It is supposed to be the same car Ricky used, but you can't take a win away from him as there is no way to prove it was in fact that car so..... Just like a guy that wins a bunch then gets caught cheating you can only D/Q that win and suspend or whatever but can't really take away previous wins. But fans/racers may put an * by the wins.

The doors and deck should really be flat, no tolerance, checked with a level. Could be teched in roughly 30 seconds.

[CageFaraday]

The doors and deck should really be flat, no tolerance, checked with a level. Could be teched in roughly 30 seconds.

Rule use to be you had to have a break running the length of the door that didn't let the door dish in. It was an easy an viable rule to check. The horse is long since left the barn and they show no signs of correcting anything, only allowing more and more while enforcing irrelevant rules that only drive up costs.

[Josh Bayko]

Rule use to be you had to have a break running the length of the door that didn't let the door dish in. It was an easy an viable rule to check. The horse is long since left the barn and they show no signs of correcting anything, only allowing more and more while enforcing irrelevant rules that only drive up costs.

Oh, I agree. Body rules are the cheapest to change, but the powers that be would rather look at everything else. It's absurd.