Weiss (illegal car) transparancy

[Dlmfan123]

He was not disqualified... just not aloud to race the car he wanted too. He chose to leave.

[fryefan]

I don't think that they owe an explanation to anyone but Ricky Weiss. This isn't the government that is funded by American tax dollars. This is a private company that operates with its own money. Race fans pay for a ticket to see the show. If there was no show, well that would demand an explanation. The fact that one competitor had a rule infraction and was not allowed to race, would only demand the statement that was made...

You hit the nail on the head.

[ZERO25]

This is true. They certainly don't owe fans an explanation and if they choose not to offer a statement they're certainly within their rights. However, for the sake of PR and to avoid a lot of speculation, rumors, and misinformation that could arise as result of that, it might be a lot smarter to issue a statement and explain the circumstances and situation surrounding the disqualification. Otherwise, they wind up looking like they may have something to hide here, like perhaps they were specially targeting certain teams. Of course, it could also be that if they did release more details and information, that might only hurt them and make them look worse, because perhaps they were trying to specifically target someone. Anyway, the choice is theirs. However, they have to know that keeping it under wraps is going to fuel rumors and speculation that something fishy was going on.

Everything about the wrg/ump is stinky these days. From this incident to the tire tests fiasco, to the drug tests, its a big smelly sideshow!

Their PR department must be non-existent!

[Stefan2k4]

Just curious does Weiss have the option of him and his crew taking a polygraph test? If they all swear the bar was really 1 1/2 and the machine says they are telling the the truth will the decision be changed? If passing a polygraph could get Bobby and Dunn Benson's suspension reduced why shouldn't it be worth something here?

He was not disqualified... just not aloud to race the car he wanted too

A rose by any other name?

[CageFaraday]

He was not disqualified... just not aloud to race the car he wanted too. He chose to leave.

I disagree, if the car he setup to run Eldora was disqualified(deemed unusable) then "he" is disqualified. Which is the same result practically. You can't just unload a Wissota car(which I think is spec) and have any prayer of competing at the World. Its bring your "A" game or don't come. So telling him he couldn't run his car the way it was setup was the same as a disqualification, even if "Technically" they didn't say he was disqualified. Its the same result. I hope he comes back in October and Blisters Bronson & Richards. Its a low class move from a douche' bag brat. Wonder where I can get a Weiss shirt online...

[J20in1st]

Say Doug Drowns car had an illegal bar on it. Would it still be someone else's fault for pointing it out? Or is this whoke ordeal being blown out of proportion because of the parties involved and all of the hear say? Only a select few know why the bar was the size it was and only a select few know how they found it. We as spectators aren't owed anything other than the races we pay to watch. We don't carry some special privledge to know what goes on behind closed doors. Never have. Never will.

Nah BS I deserve to know as a paying customer

[Raceready]

Is Francis no longer the WRG tech inspector? If he is wouldn't that make him an employee? Your right, people on here tend to confuse the other worldly political non-sense in Washington and elsewhere with ow the rest of reality goes. It doesn't. I've heard it was a door bar diameter, which if true is pretty pathetic on Bronson's part and understandable on how it was missed during inspection. Nobody ever won a race because of a door bar. Ever. Obviously NOT motivated by concern for anyone's safety or a performance advantage, just an attempt to take Bloomer off the board for the World, only he missed and got Weiss. In this situation I'd have no issue with a warning to get it fixed ASAP, not to throw him out, this isn't Nascar...

Very good points. It sounds like old Nark Richards is not making any new friends this week !

[CageFaraday]

Francis is employed by Lucas Oil Late Model Series. He has nothing to do with WRG whatsoever.

Yea, I got that turned around, I thought for some reason he was with WRG, but I looked it up and your right, Lucas job. The whole deal is just so classless. Somebody brought up Bloomquist getting torque'd up one time when Mars beat him, thats true. Only different in Mars situation was it was between Bloomquist and Mars and Bloomquist paid up for the tire protest, no sneaking around whispering things to tech dude. Even though Bloomy lostthat protest he did it the right way, no waiting till everybody is hours from home and pointing out some non-essential item that can't be changed at the track, he put up his money and lodged a formal protest on the spot. Bronson is a douche' of the lowest order, I bet Bloomquist will be more selective on who else he sells to from now on. I want a Weiss shirt.

[golddirt]

Scott was upfront on that one but he is well known to do some shady stuff too. He loves to play in the gray area.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Is Francis no longer the WRG tech inspector? If he is wouldn't that make him an employee?


Your right, people on here tend to confuse the other worldly political non-sense in Washington and elsewhere with ow the rest of reality goes. It doesn't.


I've heard it was a door bar diameter, which if true is pretty pathetic on Bronson's part and understandable on how it was missed during inspection. Nobody ever won a race because of a door bar. Ever. Obviously NOT motivated by concern for anyone's safety or a performance advantage, just an attempt to take Bloomer off the board for the World, only he missed and got Weiss. In this situation I'd have no issue with a warning to get it fixed ASAP, not to throw him out, this isn't Nascar...

Since when does WRG own Lucas? Wow...

[dirty-white-boy]

Since when does WRG own Lucas? Wow...

All you smart 4m'ers missed my point. Rules for a such thing have to be the same across the board for a car to run from series to series. IF these cars are truly being teched the way they should (especially from a safety standpoint) why was it allowed for all these races leading up to the World 100?

I am guessing that Steve would say no comment to cover his behind BUT maybe it would make him think twice when inspecting cars.

How did cars get to the look we have today? Because nobody was made an example of and sent home at a race. The tolerances got laxer and laxer as cars showed up with more wedge in the nose and a higher and higher RF nose clearance. This car passed tech many times (allegedly) so why now was he sent home. See my point?

[Clayton_Wetter]

I don't know so I am asking. Is this car that failed inspection, the same car that won the North/South?

This needs to be answered.

[CageFaraday]

Since when does WRG own Lucas? Wow...

Either you chose to ignore it or maybe you missed it, but in my follow up post I said I was wrong about Francis working for WRG, it was Lucas, my mistake. That's as far as I'm gonna take this with you because I don't play the whole troll and swap DA insults for 6 pages. Francis works for Lucas, I was wrong.
un-wow...

[Stefan2k4]

In the other threads, people were talking about cost and how things like wide bore motors make it too expensive for the little guy to compete. Well, there are other things that can make it costly for the little guys to compete as well. One of those is rule changes that make the equipment he already bought and paid for obsolete and no longer legal. And this affects little guys like Weiss a lot more than it doe big guys, because big guys are probably going to be running a brand new car that's the latest and greatest every year anyway. It's the little guys who are going to be running cars a few years older and when they do get a new car they have to hopefully get as many years as they can out of it. I'll bet Weiss wasn't the only person who bought a 2016 Bloomquist car and he probably isn't the only one still running one. That means there are probably others out there who bought these cars when they were legal and now have a car, that if the officials should arbitrarily decide to scrutinize more closely could be declared illegal whenever it's convenient to do so.

In a situation like this, what would make more sense, would be to have a clause in the rules that allow older cars built before the rule change to be grandfathered in, provided the team could prove the car was built and bought that way, before the rule change went into affect. Teams with Newer chassis which were built with the larger tube diameter, who have to have the tubing size they were built with. This would make perfect sense, as it's highly unlikely any team would want to run an older car, just to be able to run very slightly smaller door bars. And it would mean that any little guys who had these older cars, would not be suddenly faced with a large expense of having to buy a brand new car or have the older one modified and upgraded to conform.

[golddirt]

What rule was changed?