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  • Josh Bayko
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 8737

    #16
    Originally posted by LMNED10 View Post
    What about all the regional super late model tour champions from across the country, since 99% season is over with by that time of year, I think that would be a cool deal
    At least half of those guys don't show up now, how is inviting them going to change that?
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    • dirt junkie
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 210

      #17
      Open for lates, invite the best 50 midgets in the country and this is probably gonna be a unpopular vote but I say cut the modifieds out. Sorry Kenny Wallace. Get a late model

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      • Illtsate32
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 3079

        #18
        Originally posted by dirt junkie View Post
        Open for lates, invite the best 50 midgets in the country and this is probably gonna be a unpopular vote but I say cut the modifieds out. Sorry Kenny Wallace. Get a late model
        I hate to say it because I am a modified fan, but they would prob not lose a single ticket sale if they were to do that. Besides the pit passes and modified teams of course...

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        • brsteg
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 1590

          #19
          Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
          I hate to say it because I am a modified fan, but they would prob not lose a single ticket sale if they were to do that. Besides the pit passes and modified teams of course...
          If you get rid of mods, you could probably do open but capped entry for midgets. Cap at 100, pay entry fee and security deposit that each team gets back when they enter the Dome.

          Idk how many mods got an invite, but maybe just lower to like 30 entries.. All*Stars of the Illiana area. Pay a little less out. Quicken up the show, still have a good show. Maybe that's enough to allow more midget invites. (Maybe not for sake of timing. But, I personally don't have a problem with length of show. But I also have not attended and been borderline held hostage at the thing.)
          "The Wise One"

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          • Rocal145
            Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 73

            #20
            Do 40 invites then 40 signups. Let the signups run dual features wednesday night and take the top 5 from each then send the rest home.

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            • WisWildManFan
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 3217

              #21
              If you haven't won a super race all year you're not welcome. The guys causing most theCautions were back markers to begin with. No one will continue to support the event if it lasts 10 plus hours daily
              Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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              • cgrace
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 903

                #22
                I'd say use something like Montana Magic's results to get your top 75 lates and do an open event on as well and take the top 25. Not all 75 will show up. Than you leave at 100 lates.

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                • Bubstr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3734

                  #23
                  It would be a shame To go to a invite only. This short, slower track levels the playing field between the have's and the have nots. Run it for another day and split qualifying up to inside and outside rows, like Knoxville does. Put a three spin and out for the show rule. As far as track conditions go, Gundaker dose as well as any for a track that don't drain or have the ability to raise moisture from under. Possibly a black ice track would keep the car breaker bumps out but still keep dirt on the concrete, although it does give it character. Last year's track seemed better than this years, but a bit dryer also. Just thinking out loud, no expert here.

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                  • ImCryn2
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 885

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WisWildManFan View Post
                    If you haven't won a super race all year you're not welcome. The guys causing most theCautions were back markers to begin with. No one will continue to support the event if it lasts 10 plus hours daily
                    IDK about winning a super race, but you should have to be a competitive super driver. Some of the entries were limited LM drivers who do not even run the front half of the field at their local track. I understand them wanting to go race, but I don't feel that's what this event is about. If this was a 5 day event then it would not be an issue, but with limited time I think they have to limit the number of cars somehow. I don't believe guys like Welshan and Zobrist would be left out of an invite style event. Perhaps have an application process (for the not so big names) where your accomplishments are taken into consideration for an invitation.

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                    • JCSullivan00
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1418

                      #25
                      What about someone like Logan Roberson? He didn't really run any super races, but he would have made the show had he not had a flat.

                      The invitation deal is kind of hokey anyway. Bobby Pierce got an invite in mods and midgets. What did he win in 2018 in either of those cars?

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                      • 3 wide
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1124

                        #26
                        The reason you have this problem is because it's a 55mph race everybody thinks they can win a race like this.

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #27
                          Anyone can win with enough talent. Big dollar equipment is almost useless. Just try and open up that big inch spread bore engine. Finesse is the name of the game.

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                          • 3 wide
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 1124

                            #28
                            Your exactly right that is why all those average guys show up.

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                            • President Clinton
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 490

                              #29
                              Y’all forget,,,,,,without average guys there will be no racing. I didn’t like the long show either, but without all the average guys and people that they bring/tell about it, you have no growth!!!! Gotta find a way, maybe an extra qualifying race day, to let anyone try to make it.Invitation only and I will choose to go watch a hell tour race at Highland Illinois instead of the dome. I like to see the little guy get a shot. I can watch the superstar teams every weekend somewhere.

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                              • 3 wide
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 1124

                                #30
                                I agree I like to see the little guy have a chance too what I'm saying if it wasn't a 55 mph race those guys wouldn't be there that is why some of the bigger teams don't come its opposite for them.

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