Open Letter to UMP

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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #46
    Yeah, talk about unintended consequences, i hadn't considered bumps inside the shocks. A lot harder than you think to keep these cars in check concerning rules i guess.

    Just say no...

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    • Illtsate32
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 3079

      #47
      Enforce the track width rule on rf, the reason they can pin the rf down with these shocks is because they got the rf stuck out a mile further than they did 5 years ago..suck the rf back in they wont have the clearance to pin the rf on the ground anymore...

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      • Fully Torqued
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2018
        • 18

        #48
        Make the nose smaller. Deck should be flat. No carving out the sail panel. No fancy shocks or parts such as progressive springs. Chain the left rear down so it can only extend 2 inches above ride height. Have 8-10 inch tires. Have a rear percentage rule. That'll make it cheaper, simple, easy, done. Now tell me all about how people with money will find a way around it. If they actually tech cars and keep an eye on things, it should be easy.

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #49
          Originally posted by Fully Torqued View Post
          Make the nose smaller. Deck should be flat. No carving out the sail panel. No fancy shocks or parts such as progressive springs. Chain the left rear down so it can only extend 2 inches above ride height. Have 8-10 inch tires. Have a rear percentage rule. That'll make it cheaper, simple, easy, done. Now tell me all about how people with money will find a way around it. If they actually tech cars and keep an eye on things, it should be easy.
          The car would be slower than a Hornet. They couldn't use the throttle.

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          • Fully Torqued
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2018
            • 18

            #50
            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
            The car would be slower than a Hornet. They couldn't use the throttle.
            Not at all. Maybe they couldn't use the throttle on a slick track with a Vic Hill engine. But isn't that the point? I suppose they could keep the 12 inch tires.

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #51
              Originally posted by Fully Torqued View Post
              Not at all. Maybe they couldn't use the throttle on a slick track with a Vic Hill engine. But isn't that the point? I suppose they could keep the 12 inch tires.
              I would say there is no point in having 900 horsepower motors if all they wind up doing is feather footing and spinning tires.

              I wish things had just stayed the same as they were in the mid and late 1970's when most cars were home made.

              But when progress is made I can't see not using it. Those good old days are gone.

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              • Fully Torqued
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2018
                • 18

                #52
                We need to bring short track racing back by making it cheaper and easier for people to compete, but we gotta have the ridiculously fast cars. How do we fix this? The answer has gotta be around here somewhere. It's a scooby doo mystery! Hmmmmmm?..........

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                • Fully Torqued
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 18

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                  I would say there is no point in having 900 horsepower motors if all they wind up doing is feather footing and spinning tires.I wish things had just stayed the same as they were in the mid and late 1970's when most cars were home made. But when progress is made I can't see not using it. Those good old days are gone.
                  And that's why I have no hope for the future of short track racing. It could be so simple and easy to fix, but almost no one wants to do it.

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                  • RaceEngineer
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 482

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                    I would say there is no point in having 900 horsepower motors if all they wind up doing is feather footing and spinning tires.I wish things had just stayed the same as they were in the mid and late 1970's when most cars were home made. But when progress is made I can't see not using it. Those good old days are gone.
                    That would be infinitely more interesting than 20 crates just holding it to the floor. At least for me.

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                    • Illtsate32
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 3079

                      #55
                      ^^^ that's why the crate class is a bust because with the high dollar shocks n suspensions those cars are stuck like glue and whoever has the best cheated up motor they run away with it...Aaron Heck at tri city few years back, in lm crate class but the pitch of his engine sounded twice as crisp as anyone elses, I'm not saying he was cheating but he looked like Scott Bloomquist running against guys in their first year running a pro 4..was he really that much better driver than everone else...

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                      • fryefan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3547

                        #56
                        Crate late model racing is the future of weekly racing. The process of that occurring started several years ago.

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                          I would say there is no point in having 900 horsepower motors if all they wind up doing is feather footing and spinning tires.

                          I wish things had just stayed the same as they were in the mid and late 1970's when most cars were home made.

                          But when progress is made I can't see not using it. Those good old days are gone.
                          When your right, your right. Better yet, go back to the 50s. $400 race cars. I could To go the Junk yard and pick up 90% of it.

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                          • dirty-white-boy
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 997

                            #58
                            UMP the way it was designed died the day Bob died.
                            Just like Nascar died that fateful day at Daytona in 2001....

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                            • KONG
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 367

                              #59
                              Just some info. Pierce has probably won 90% of his race with small bore engines. Meaning non wide bore engines

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                              • dirty-white-boy
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 997

                                #60
                                Originally posted by KONG View Post
                                Just some info. Pierce has probably won 90% of his race with small bore engines. Meaning non wide bore engines
                                So he's lost 100% of his races to cars with wide bore then right? LOL

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