Thornton got the shaft tonight

[TS FAN]

Sure thought Thornton won it. But I have no way of debating the out come. Really like this guy, and maybe he can get them back tonight. Great race

[ImCryn2]

Transponders are mounted in the front.

Either the rear end tube or the engine mid plate. It doesn't really matter when they are mounted in the same place on each car.

[over4T]

Lot of good points made, especially zero25's and the comments about the transponder receiving cable location. One touring group we run with recently changed transponder locations on the cars from front at lower A arm to midplate and there are flaws with each. A inch or two either way can cost or give you a win.

One of our regular haunts last year saw a guy get his first sprint car main win taken away because their wire was buried coming out of turn 4, where he was second on the last lap, instead of at the start/finish line where it should be and where he definitely won by about half a car.

Transponders are great for most lineups getting sorted out on restarts but the old fashioned human scorers and/or a camera at the finish line are better for determining the winner.

[NeedforLMspeed]

When Nascar was at Darlington a couple weeks ago they showed the finish between Craven and Kurt Busch a couple times. Ricky won because that Pontiac nosepiece was slightly longer. Had he been in a Ford like Busch I believe it would've been a tie

[Buford.Justice]

At the 3:41 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2cfwOwIoQ

Wow, it sure looks like Thornton won that race, from that view. Transponders are supposed to be located at the rear axle on all cars I believe, I assume they do check the locations of them after the race.

There could be some tricks played with transponders. It has happened before. Not in Lucas that I know of.

[CIRF]

One of our regular haunts last year saw a guy get his first sprint car main win taken away because their wire was buried coming out of turn 4, where he was second on the last lap, instead of at the start/finish line where it should be and where he definitely won by about half a car.

Over, did the real winner protest the outcome? It seems if the outcome was obvious to everyone in the place they'd make it right and give the win to the actual winner.

[Jking24]

Wow, it sure looks like Thornton won that race, from that view. Transponders are supposed to be located at the rear axle on all cars I believe, I assume they do check the locations of them after the race. There could be some tricks played with transponders. It has happened before. Not in Lucas that I know of.

This was a woo race and the transponders are mounted on the lf

[GRT32]

transponders are good for determining the part of the car that crosses the line 1st, I dont know where woo mounts theirs at, I assume axle tube, ricky could have crossed the line 1st with the nose of the car and still lost according to transponder.

[hjr2]

The transponder isn't even at the very front of the car? Isn't that like the olympics judging the winner of the 100m dash by the back of your head crossing the line?

[NeedforLMspeed]

I've seen local tracks that say the transponder has to be mounted on the rr axle housing.

[over4T]

Over, did the real winner protest the outcome? It seems if the outcome was obvious to everyone in the place they'd make it right and give the win to the actual winner.

Yep, He and his father complained (mildly) but the grandstand crowd really got jacked up over it. But nope, the track didn't reverse their call on the matter. The track, which I won't name, was just lucky it wasn't us or one of the other veteran teams or they'd still be hearing about it. We're known as polite (mostly) and respectful (mostly) but we know how hard those wins are to come by.

P.S. Marysville Raceway Park is still on, so far, for tonight. My son was scheduled to drive our friend's second Limited Late Model to help the struggling car count in the class but with 3 different weather forecasts a few minutes ago showing, take your pick: clear, definite showers or thunderstorms, a purse that was cut in half for LLMs that is already embarrassingly low and some 250 miles of driving back and forth to get the car, race, return it, then drive home we decided to stay home and watch it on Speed Shift TV, if it even happens. I'm going back out to the shop and get the cars ready for next Saturday at Antioch Speedway. Another no fans event.

[Buford.Justice]

This was a woo race and the transponders are mounted on the lf

Yes I did say Lucas, my bad.

[ZERO25]

So $500k haulers, $100k racecars and tracks cant install a camera at the finish line??? smh

[Barbecueboy]

It beats waiting 2 weeks to announce the winner from a tire result.

[castone]

Saturday Night tracks in some States mounts transponders on the r axle housing like Needfor said, looks to me like cars would have to be exactly the same length for winner scorning to be 100% correct using transponders !