Thornton got the shaft tonight

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  • Rajflyboy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 5907

    #16
    Using transponders at line can be like the winner in ford vs Ferrari

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    • lurker
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 3190

      #17
      Originally posted by EDERDS View Post
      Eyeball test watching the cars showed Thornton winning
      At the 3:41 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2cfwOwIoQ

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      • bleedblue55
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1872

        #18
        Originally posted by lurker View Post
        No way to tell from that angle, flagstand is located down towards turn 1. Also appears that small track flagstand is on the inside and large track stand is on the outside. How timing cable is buried in relation to those two stands would mean a lot. Guess whoever buried it could answer that. Good to see the tin foil hat conspiracy nut jobs out in force.

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        • bleedblue55
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1872

          #19
          Originally posted by WisWildManFan View Post
          Heard bloomer was actually running big track tonight just testing can someone confirm or deny
          Best thread comment in a while

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          • zyoung25
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 8945

            #20
            Originally posted by Big Daddy 37 View Post
            Often the transponder cable is not buried under the track, right at the flag stand... Some tracks are 3-6 feet either way.
            Not sure if that is the case or not, but...
            A few years back, Florence had something like happen. The cable wasnt exactly straight (at that time) and the win went the car that appeared to run 2nd by eye ball and video. I think it was Cody Mahoney and Jason Jameson if I remember right. Jameson was declared the winner because that how the transponders read.

            Florence later came out and said their transponder pick up cable was not exactly straight in line with the flagstand.

            You might be on to something here.

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            • WildBill32
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 748

              #21
              I know it's early in the season. But, this race could be in the top five for race of the year. Great race!

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              • bleedblue55
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1872

                #22
                Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                A few years back, Florence had something like happen. The cable wasnt exactly straight (at that time) and the win went the car that appeared to run 2nd by eye ball and video. I think it was Cody Mahoney and Jason Jameson if I remember right. Jameson was declared the winner because that how the transponders read.

                Florence later came out and said their transponder pick up cable was not exactly straight in line with the flagstand.

                You might be on to something here.
                Been to a few tracks early and seen them bury new timing cable, not exactly a GPS accurate transit set up, more like pick and shovel.

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                • ImCryn2
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 885

                  #23
                  Transponders are the most accurate way, there is no personal judgement involved. I get it, Thornton was on the losing end last night, but I'm guessing at some point he has been or will be on the other end one day.

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                  • lurker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3190

                    #24
                    Originally posted by EDERDS View Post
                    Eyeball test watching the cars showed Thornton winning
                    Originally posted by lurker View Post
                    Originally posted by bleedblue55 View Post
                    No way to tell from that angle, flagstand is located down towards turn 1. Also appears that small track flagstand is on the inside and large track stand is on the outside. How timing cable is buried in relation to those two stands would mean a lot. Guess whoever buried it could answer that. Good to see the tin foil hat conspiracy nut jobs out in force.
                    I was simply pointing out at the 3:41 mark the announcer made the same comment that EDERDS made. Sorry I wasn’t specific and I made it hard for you comprehend.

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                    • ImCryn2
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 885

                      #25
                      .007 of a second. Using the eyeball test, the guy with a longer front bumper will win every time.

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                      • reid boys
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 647

                        #26
                        DOD has a picture, I wonder if that's the finish?

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                        • Jking24
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 1512

                          #27
                          The problem is the series run at so many different tracks that it is tough for them to have somthing consistent. If their was a line in the wall and a camera dead in line like eldora it be one thing but alot of tracks don't have this so the rules for the series are when in question they go to the transponder and that is official. Doesent realy matter where the loop is located if that is deemed the line by the rules that's it. This is why they have a rule on the placement of the transponder because it will be the decision maker. They checked the transponder positions before they declared a winner. I wanted to see rtj win as much as anybody but he didn't. Bottom line great race great finish

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #28
                            The problem with transponders is theyre mounted on the rearend…..approx. 15 ft from the front of the nose!

                            A car 1 mph faster can travel 1.46 feet in 1 second!

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                            • golddirt
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3774

                              #29
                              Exactly zero !!!

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                              • jcotton02
                                Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 55

                                #30
                                Transponders are mounted in the front.

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