Richmond (Lupinos) vs Lake Cumberland/Ponderosa (Hardgrove)

[Rocal145]

For everyone keeping up with KY dirt drama.... What is your take of recent events? August 21st The $20,059 Butterball memorial rains out and is rescheduled for September 18th-19th a Lake Cumberland weekly show weekend... August 29th the $10,022 Harold Hardgrove memorial is rained out and rescheduled for September 12th, Richmond does not run in recognition of the memorial. Lake Cumberland/Ponderosa (Both promoted by Brandon Hardgrove) announce back to back $5,000 to win Iron-Man(promoted by Tilley, Hardgrove's cousin) shows the weekend of the rescheduled Butterball September 18th-19th. Both promoters have been in a pizzing match with driver announcements. Even some allegations of paying drivers to show.

[Drop Shock]

Al they would have to do is one of them run this weekend and one run the first weekend in October. Pretty stupid all the way around

[zyoung25]

Florence had a 5k set to be run on the 19th as well. Richmond scheduled on top of it to begin with. They have since moved it to next week.

[noitall93w]

It’s annoying and I wish they both would STFU

[chupp n bloomer fan]

This day and age competing for cars anywhere in the country, by having a pi$$ing match is childish and dumb. It’s a terrible business decision to do it. Work together, or a good chance ya both will fail.

[DirtyD31]

They both run identical. I live in Richmond, and love ponderosa. Both tracks run every (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) class that KY has to offer every big late model race. And they time trial em all. Drives me crazy, and both tracks do it identical.

[MRM]

Hardgrove said he had a couple of unsanctioned shows scheduled for the weekend. I didn't see his previous schedule, so I don't know if that's true or not, just going by what he said on Facebook. Then when the Butterball got moved to that weekend, he decided to make both of them Iron Man races. When most people look to reschedule races these days, they go to DoD to see what's open. But I don't think they list that many unsanctioned races. It could be an honest mistake or it could be intentional. Only they know.

The drivers and the fans are the ones that are hurt by these moves. You have drivers like Chilton and others that would have gone to Richmond, but will now have to go to Ponderosa and Lake Cumberland. Fans will be split too. I was always impressed with the Kentucky tracks working together on these bigger events. I don't know what's happened between the two groups here. Maybe they need to form an alliance like we finally have in east Tennessee.

[bleedsbluer2]

Wow how lame on brandon and chris tilley and bloomquist starr off as each track should respect the others main memorial race and not race against them that night and for bloomer wtf coming to ky to race and he going to hit 5000 to wins over a 20 grand event in the same area and him being one of the greatest ever wtf 2nd at richmond pays more than ponderosa and lake Cumberland combined plus richmond has 1000 to win heats that's unheard of this sounds like a bunch of democrats and Republicans going back and forth all I can say is hope all the fans and drivers make the right decision and support the Richmond raceway this night

[Pennsboro32]

Bonehead move for sure.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Wow how lame on brandon and chris tilley and bloomquist starr off as each track should respect the others main memorial race and not race against them that night and for bloomer wtf coming to ky to race and he going to hit 5000 to wins over a 20 grand event in the same area and him being one of the greatest ever wtf 2nd at richmond pays more than ponderosa and lake Cumberland combined plus richmond has 1000 to win heats that's unheard of this sounds like a bunch of democrats and Republicans going back and forth all I can say is hope all the fans and drivers make the right decision and support the Richmond raceway this night

If Bloomquist wishes to test, Richmond is useless for the purpose.

[Rocal145]

Florence had a 5k set to be run on the 19th as well. Richmond scheduled on top of it to begin with. They have since moved it to next week.

Good observation. I didn't even know that. Although Florence doesn't fight for the same cars on a weekly basis... It would make a difference when it comes to the likes of Jameson and The Silver Shark.

[Rocal145]

Al they would have to do is one of them run this weekend and one run the first weekend in October. Pretty stupid all the way around

So that begs the question. Why not run like you described? There must be something personal with the track owners.... but what?

[bleedsbluer2]

Didnt the butterball last few years run iron man series or southern nationals who tilley was over but notice this year its ultimate series

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Didnt the butterball last few years run iron man series or southern nationals who tilley was over but notice this year its ultimate series

It was ultimate last year.

[MRM]

Didnt the butterball last few years run iron man series or southern nationals who tilley was over but notice this year its ultimate series

It was a SN Bonus Series race two years ago. I was there for that one. It was Ultimate last year. Lupinos seems pretty tight with Ultimate.