Dirt quality Arizona vs East Coast

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  • Rajflyboy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 5907

    #1

    Dirt quality Arizona vs East Coast

    How does dirt in Arizona compare to dirt back East (for racing grip, etc) ?
  • BloomerWon
    Banned
    • Dec 2019
    • 2399

    #2
    I would say it's clay with high levels of alkalinity that is stable in pH.

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    • Rajflyboy
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 5907

      #3
      I was thinking some sand 😂

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      • Switchback29A1
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 480

        #4
        The problem with arizona is theyre starting so early in the day so viewers from the east coast can still somewhat be awake when its over. The problem is, track gets so many daytime laps that it cant help but rubber up before its over.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14320

          #5
          Originally posted by Switchback29A1 View Post
          The problem with arizona is theyre starting so early in the day so viewers from the east coast can still somewhat be awake when its over. The problem is, track gets so many daytime laps that it cant help but rubber up before its over.
          It rubbers because it's abrasive. The rubber forms long after the sun goes down.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • dirtcrazy4u
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 3212

            #6
            At least there running a good show. I don't like the multiple classes, today thats what promotors look at, the back gate more so than what about the fans. 2 classes of the mods is a little much but as I said they are moving the show smoothly.

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            • waaac77
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 629

              #7
              And where is this great east coast dirt you are comparing west coast dirt to? East coast has the best dirt?

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              • Mason87
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 497

                #8
                Where did he say it was better? He asked a simple question on the two. Relax man

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14320

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rajflyboy View Post
                  How does dirt in Arizona compare to dirt back East (for racing grip, etc) ?
                  Where east? It's all different. Maryland and Florida aren't even close. The stuff at Arizona Speedway is better than a lot of Georgia tracks, but not as good as some other places. Putting rubber down is a huge problem anymore. The cars have way too much downforce and grip. Any type of abrasive in the track, once it packs down, just peels the rubber off the tires.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • dirtcrazy4u
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 3212

                    #10
                    I remember when tracks up north searched wide and far for good dirt. In my few short yrs living here in the south the surface I've seen is far superior than what they have up north

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                    • Rajflyboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 5907

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      Where east? It's all different. Maryland and Florida aren't even close. The stuff at Arizona Speedway is better than a lot of Georgia tracks, but not as good as some other places. Putting rubber down is a huge problem anymore. The cars have way too much downforce and grip. Any type of abrasive in the track, once it packs down, just peels the rubber off the tires.
                      I realize dirt is different everywhere. You can still get clay out of the desert in Arizona. I was just curious how dirt works out there. My guess is the dirt would be better out there. Thanks.

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                      • EvelB7
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 896

                        #12
                        Anything along the Mississippi seems to do very well. Southeast is not so good (North and South Carolina), of course their are exceptions....When my buddies come down from Iowa they can't believe the difference in the track surfaces.

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                        • Rajflyboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 5907

                          #13
                          Good old Mississippi River.

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                          • dirtcrazy4u
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 3212

                            #14
                            The black dirt of knoxville is so different from what guys race on.

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                            • Mopar DLM
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 216

                              #15
                              The black gumbo out of the lower 1/3 of the Mississippi river has absolutely no sand in it and when watered right only gets tackier the more you race on it. It will pull your shoes after the features are over. The track will never take rubber and you can run a tire till it gets cut off because with no abrasion the tire never gets hot. Have run a full season and still had the titties on the tires on some good old McCreary gf-0 marsh mellows.

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