Why do some fans get so upset over the use of provisionals?

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  • Just The Tip
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 231

    #16
    Originally posted by cjsracing View Post
    Didn't earn it? They earned it by being high enough in points and following the series, so don't give me the "they didn't earn it" BS.
    That's what tow money is for. Race your way in or load it up.

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14310

      #17
      Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
      Like em or not, touring provisionals aren't going away any time soon.
      They don't fail tech and they get a pass into the feature. It's a good gig.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • dirtcrazy4u
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2017
        • 3212

        #18
        There in there for the guys that follow the tour. Do they deserve it ? I say yes they do. A guy commits to following a tour should get the respect from the series. My take is, if the series gives out or has multiple series regulars that did not make the A main. Then there should be as many locals that get a provisional

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        • EDERDS
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 338

          #19
          I can remember when the Show-Me 100 and the Topless 100 wasn’t sanctioned series races. You had to race your way in and no provisionals. Can remember sitting at West Plains and seeing Billy Moyer’s rig leaving before the feature race. Both of those races went downhill when they became sanctioned races

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          • slmcrewchief99
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 738

            #20
            Here is my take on this subject. Each of you go out there and fund a team. Regional, National, Summer Nats, makes no difference. Follow the entire schedule from start to finish. Then come back and tell us your opinion on provisionals.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14310

              #21
              Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View Post
              Here is my take on this subject. Each of you go out there and fund a team. Regional, National, Summer Nats, makes no difference. Follow the entire schedule from start to finish. Then come back and tell us your opinion on provisionals.
              That's the problem with series racing. They only care what the drivers think. They have the only voice. It makes the product not fan friendly. We get drawn out marathons with lots of down time for pit stops, sheet metal pulls, etc. We get train races.

              It makes it harder if you get no provisional, I get that. Most times, it also just puts you out there wearing your stuff out for start money.
              Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 03-02-2021, 06:33 AM.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • TS FAN
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 4236

                #22
                Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View Post
                Here is my take on this subject. Each of you go out there and fund a team. Regional, National, Summer Nats, makes no difference. Follow the entire schedule from start to finish. Then come back and tell us your opinion on provisionals.
                That is it in a nutshell!!!!!

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                • BloomerWon
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 2399

                  #23
                  You all's upset about people being upset... 😁

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12920

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BloomerWon View Post
                    You all's upset about people being upset... 
                    Thanks for your input Mr. Obvious. We never made the conection.
                    8/13/16

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                    • BloomerWon
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 2399

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                      Thanks for your input Mr. Obvious. We never made the conection.
                      Well dang! Sarcasm much? 👅

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                      • WisWildManFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3217

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        That's the problem with series racing. They only care what the drivers think. They have the only voice. It makes the product not fan friendly. We get drawn out marathons with lots of down time for pit stops, sheet metal pulls, etc. We get train races.It makes it harder if you get no provisional, I get that. Most times, it also just puts you out there wearing your stuff out for start money.
                        Yep along with qualifying and putting fastest guy on the point. Either pay qualifying points and have and invert or go to a pill draw. The fastest car starting on the pole of a race is never good for the fans.
                        Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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                        • CCHIEF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 399

                          #27
                          As long as you know them (provisions) before any car hits the track, it’s fair play.Want redraw/invert etc, enter a weekly show. Series followers should get catered to.Fans need to conceit to whom is putting the Big money in to have a show!A track provisional is usually on the track promoters dime, and a welcomed addition to a touring series show.

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                          • dirtSLMracing
                            Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 664

                            #28
                            Without provisionals car counts would drop in touring series and people complaining now about provisionals would be complaining about the drop in car counts.

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                            • NeedforLM$peed
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 1637

                              #29
                              2 is ok. Maybe 3 depending on the event. 5+ isn't ok. A guy using one because of mechanical issue is ok. A guy using one almost every event isn't ok.
                              2021 race count
                              6 events

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14310

                                #30
                                As long as you know them (provisions) before any car hits the track, it’s fair play.Want redraw/invert etc, enter a weekly show. Series followers should get catered to.Fans need to conceit to whom is putting the Big money in to have a show!A track provisional is usually on the track promoters dime, and a welcomed addition to a touring series show.
                                The fans are the ones that make the big money possible. Forest Lucas isn't showing up with a checkbook.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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