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  • bleedblue55
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1880

    #16
    If WRG didn’t have WoO Sprint Car dates to use to leverage tracks to host WoOLM dates instead of Lucas I feel Lucas would be looking at creating 2 series to fill tracks wanting dates. WoO is falling behind not only on their schedule but their driver lineup.

    So Port Royal, I-80 and Knoxville all have WOO sprint dates but their biggest Late model shows are all Lucas Oil, try harder there Tireguy17

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    • 3 wide
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 1141

      #17
      Well I agree the purses need to be raised and a lot of them have been but they also need to increase the laps yes it's true it's been 10 grand for a while but a lot of them races were 100 laps now they are 50 laps most of the races are 50 laps now not many 100 laps races.

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      • Pennsboro32
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 3440

        #18
        Originally posted by 3 wide View Post
        Well I agree the purses need to be raised and a lot of them have been but they also need to increase the laps yes it's true it's been 10 grand for a while but a lot of them races were 100 laps now they are 50 laps most of the races are 50 laps now not many 100 laps races.
        50 laps is fine with me. I don't think every national sanctioned event should be 100 laps.

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        • waaac77
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 629

          #19
          No need to increase purses. These race teams don’t make their money off the purse payout. Tracks need to lower their prices and get more folks in the place so they buy more food, drinks and souvenirs

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          • BloomerHarvickFan
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 546

            #20
            Originally posted by 3 wide View Post
            Well I agree the purses need to be raised and a lot of them have been but they also need to increase the laps yes it's true it's been 10 grand for a while but a lot of them races were 100 laps now they are 50 laps most of the races are 50 laps now not many 100 laps races.
            I was thinking the same thing. Back in the HAT days, the 10,000 to win races were the 100 lap, 2 day shows. You'd have qualifying and Heats on Friday, and B mains and Feature on Saturday. If you think about it, this was actually very good for the promoters/tracks. You had 2 days of admission (albeit Friday was cheaper) and 2 days of concession sales and souvenir sales.
            They only paid 5,000 for the 50 lappers.

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            • Crossbones
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 812

              #21
              Originally posted by BloomerHarvickFan View Post
              I was thinking the same thing. Back in the HAT days, the 10,000 to win races were the 100 lap, 2 day shows. You'd have qualifying and Heats on Friday, and B mains and Feature on Saturday. If you think about it, this was actually very good for the promoters/tracks. You had 2 days of admission (albeit Friday was cheaper) and 2 days of concession sales and souvenir sales.
              They only paid 5,000 for the 50 lappers.
              No way!! 100 lap races are terrible with few exceptions! Two day shows are even worse especially for fans.

              The trend seems to be 40 laps now and thats about right IMO.

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              • LM1
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 328

                #22
                I love how Fairbury does the PDC, good show for the fans and not as much wear and tear on equipment for the teams. 25 lap qualifying features on Friday with no heat races. I used to love how Cedar Lake did the USA Nationals back when it was a 2 day show as well - time trials and 20 lap heat races Friday, each heat race was like a mini feature.

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                • TS FAN
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4236

                  #23
                  Dirt LM racing is alive and well. Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but there are plenty of LM racing everywhere. Now as far as the series like Lucas and Woo, I am surprised to some degree how many teams still follow them.

                  Dirt LM racing at local tracks has slowed down because weekly purses are competing every week with an assortment of added purse races in their areas. I have been around racing for seventy years and its healthier now than its ever been.

                  As a final thought, the days of large car counts are going to remain limited. Reason, drivers have other opportunities to run for added purses the same days as the big shows. Maybe the World 100 might be the last race where most promoters choose not to compete against it, but even that seems to be changing

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                    Dirt LM racing is alive and well. Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but there are plenty of LM racing everywhere. Now as far as the series like Lucas and Woo, I am surprised to some degree how many teams still follow them.

                    Dirt LM racing at local tracks has slowed down because weekly purses are competing every week with an assortment of added purse races in their areas. I have been around racing for seventy years and its healthier now than its ever been.

                    As a final thought, the days of large car counts are going to remain limited. Reason, drivers have other opportunities to run for added purses the same days as the big shows. Maybe the World 100 might be the last race where most promoters choose not to compete against it, but even that seems to be changing
                    You are fortunate to live in an area where it's not dead, but even there, I can't agree at all. When you have 10 cars taking the green at Florence Speedway, something is very wrong.

                    That's not even taking into account places in the Southeast where large super counts became large limited counts became meager 604 fields.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • TUTY
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 1243

                      #25
                      Keep paying $10,000 to win but add $10,000 to the rest of the purse. My god everyone needs to make more money to keep running.

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                      • zyoung25
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 8960

                        #26
                        I had a car owner tell me it cost 5-7k a weekend to unload his race car on the lucas tour. We're talking traveling to, pit passes, full paid crew, etc. Granted they haven't fielded a car now for a few years, but it gives ya an idea of what it costs to run a race team. Their shop wasn't in a ideal location for most races.

                        The guy I helped regionally would make a few hundred bucks when he won moler on a normal night (1200.) His shop was about 30mins away from moler.
                        Last edited by zyoung25; 07-10-2021, 09:22 AM.

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                        • 0_VodooChild_0
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2019
                          • 204

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          I feel they already had such an upper hand, I'm unsure what it changes.
                          Other than the fact that WoO & LOLMDS are going to work together & stop scheduling on top of each???? Would be great to see all the top drivers show up for EVERY super late model special.

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                          • champion24
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3065

                            #28
                            Originally posted by 0_VodooChild_0 View Post
                            O Would be great to see all the top drivers show up for EVERY super late model special.
                            That's a dream, but NOT happening! The World 100 is probably the closest we get now.

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                            • ZERO25
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 5240

                              #29
                              Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                              I had a car owner tell me it cost 5-7k a weekend to unload his race car on the lucas tour. We're talking traveling to, pit passes, full paid crew, etc. Granted they haven't fielded a car now for a few years, but it gives ya an idea of what it costs to run a race team. Their shop wasn't in a ideal location for most races.

                              The guy I helped regionally would make a few hundred bucks when he won moler on a normal night (1200.) His shop was about 30mins away from moler.
                              In Rigsby's interview with Mark Richards, Richards said it cost his team $5k per race!

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                              • thexfactor0210
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1561

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                                In Rigsby's interview with Mark Richards, Richards said it cost his team $5k per race!
                                That is on the high end I believe. They have 3 full time crew members and a full time paid driver. If you look at some guys they own their stuff and dont need to pay a driver and maybe have one paid crew guy.

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