Lucas 2022 Schedule

[ZERO25]

That is on the high end I believe. They have 3 full time crew members and a full time paid driver. If you look at some guys they own their stuff and dont need to pay a driver and maybe have one paid crew guy.

He said in 2019, he paid them 400k in salaries, not counting the employees at the shop! His shop/toter expenses was another 200k!

[Finnfan25]

I guess I'm the exception, but from where I live in central Kentucky, every Lucas Oil or WoO race (or any big late model race for that matter) in a 4 hour drive from me is packed to the point it's difficult to even find a decent seat or sometimes a seat at all (and I arrive when the gates open), and I won't even get into trying to park and get out. So much so that I rarely go anymore (even though I'm recently retired) in the post-Covid world. The reason I'm the exception is I'd GLADLY pay twice or more what I've been paying just to get the crowd down to a manageable size. I know this will probably ruffle some feathers, but that's just my opinion. Everyone keeps talking about running fans off, but it seems like every race I've been to in the past few years they announce a record crowd. Even if that's not the case I personally SURE haven't noticed any crowds dwindling.

[zooker25]

He said in 2019, he paid them 400k in salaries, not counting the employees at the shop! His shop/toter expenses was another 200k!

Any idea when Eastbay Winter nationals are?

[MRM]

There are a number of team owners and drivers not thrilled with this year's schedule. Many of them think the Midwest road trips should be combined together like this weekend and next weekend. They've made several trips that way only to get rained out.

[Pennsboro32]

There are a number of team owners and drivers not thrilled with this year's schedule. Many of them think the Midwest road trips should be combined together like this weekend and next weekend. They've made several trips that way only to get rained out.

As they should. That's a long ways to go for most teams, even if you don't get rained out.

[TS FAN]

There are a number of team owners and drivers not thrilled with this year's schedule. Many of them think the Midwest road trips should be combined together like this weekend and next weekend. They've made several trips that way only to get rained out.

i agree this is a huge problem. Going forward this problem is going to have to be addressed. BTW, WOO in Jackson Minn had 18 cars for a 10,000 and 20,000 show for example. With rain lurking around the midwest I am sure this didn't help things

[Josh Bayko]

i agree this is a huge problem. Going forward this problem is going to have to be addressed. BTW, WOO in Jackson Minn had 18 cars for a 10,000 and 20,000 show for example. With rain lurking around the midwest I am sure this didn't help things

Jackson is a really tough sell for late model touring races because there are no supers to speak of in that part of the world. They could pay 100k on weekend with no Lucas races and the car counts would still be less than 30.

[MRM]

Jackson is a really tough sell for late model touring races because there are no supers to speak of in that part of the world. They could pay 100k on weekend with no Lucas races and the car counts would still be less than 30.

What's the benefit of going to a place like that? I scratch my head when I see some of these series going into these dead zones. At least Lucas stopped going to New York when the tracks up there couldn't draw full fields.

[Josh Bayko]

What's the benefit of going to a place like that? I scratch my head when I see some of these series going into these dead zones. At least Lucas stopped going to New York when the tracks up there couldn't draw full fields.

The benefit is to the sanction. They collect the sanction fee regardless of car count. On the track’s end, it must draw some crowd if they’re willing to pony up all that cash for like 15 cars.

[castone]

anyone know the sanction fee a track has to pay for Lucas and WoO ?

[PushinTheLimit]

I know here in the southeast, many guys that used to run supers or could run supers with their funds, are running either limited or crate stuff. If you just look at it from a business side, when I can race for $2,000-$3000 regional to win races in crates versus $4000-$5000 regional super races (cause there aren't any weekly super stuff around here), money wise it's more affordable to do the crate deal. If we wanted to, we could run 6-7 crates races that pay $10,000 or more to win within a 4-6 hour radius of home. One could argue that is too much payout for crates and I get it. I personally would love to move up to a super deal. But the main thing keeping me from it cost wise is motors. If the rules ever pulled that back to where it would be reasonable and maybe go to a 4" spoiler, I think that would swing car counts. Just my opinion.

[Paradox28]

anyone know the sanction fee a track has to pay for Lucas and WoO ?

From what I can remember..the track is on the hook for the purse and the sanctioning fee..at least with WoO. It is a pretty hefty check for a track to write for one of those two to come race.

[LM1]

When the touring teams tow all the way to a race and get canceled for 2 or more days (like MN or last weekend at Smoky) does the Lucas/Woo series give them show up money to cover their travel expense?