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  • Mike
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1949

    #31
    Originally posted by dirt farmer View Post
    Pennsboro32 hit the nail on the head, till the big series take a stand ant nothing going change. Just my opinion but when they do then the tracks will get behind them and do something on the local level.
    I agree Pennsboro32 hit the nail on the head, but the big series will never take a stand, enforce/change anything as long as people continue to support them.
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    • Mike
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1949

      #32
      Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
      What if the cars had no spoilers? That's a pretty cheap and easy rule change.
      You can't take Lucas Oil's pretty Midwest Sheet Metal orange spoiler away. How would we know who is the series points leader and Lucas get a plug in for Midwest Sheet Metal?
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      • ZERO25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 5240

        #33
        Originally posted by fastford View Post
        I will agree on the aero , I know you need basic rules , but instead of eliminating existing rules , maybe just dampen down new ideas , but dont eliminate them ,,,,,,
        Bingo.......most dont realize more rules cost more money!

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        • Mike
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1949

          #34
          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
          Bingo.......most dont realize more rules cost more money!
          Not enforcing rules cost money. There has been a small group complaining about areo and the direction the bodies were heading for over 10 years yet we sit here with these monstrosities we have today slowly killing the sport.
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          • Paradox28
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 286

            #35
            https://www.facebook.com/DohmRacing/...36951063048530take a look at those bodies from just 11 years ago compared to todays top cars

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            • 84wedge
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 2094

              #36
              Originally posted by Mike View Post
              You can't take Lucas Oil's pretty Midwest Sheet Metal orange spoiler away. How would we know who is the series points leader and Lucas get a plug in for Midwest Sheet Metal?
              An orange nose, the other spoiler.

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              • Karl Childers
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 20

                #37
                # 1 rule to save Late Models, crates , and open wheel mods.

                If you try to change the motor .. (how long do u think that would take. Forever.
                If you try to change shocks... forget it.
                THIS... could change racing over night.
                Skinny tires
                Reduce the width of a late model tire. Make a universal tire checker fork.
                Crate late model . Reduce the width even more.
                Open wheel. Reduce the width even more.

                The best driver would win ... plus action on the track.

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                • chopter33
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2020
                  • 167

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Karl Childers View Post
                  If you try to change the motor .. (how long do u think that would take. Forever. If you try to change shocks... forget it. THIS... could change racing over night. Skinny tires Reduce the width of a late model tire. Make a universal tire checker fork. Crate late model . Reduce the width even more. Open wheel. Reduce the width even more.The best driver would win ... plus action on the track.
                  i wasnt aware mods need saving.

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                  • Jking24
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 1517

                    #39
                    Originally posted by chopter33 View Post
                    i wasnt aware mods need saving.
                    They just did when they outlawed pretty much everything about Hoffmans car lol

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                    • zyoung25
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 8958

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
                      They just did when they outlawed pretty much everything about Hoffmans car lol
                      Im really surprised you are still allowed to run a #2.

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                      • Karl Childers
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 20

                        #41
                        I was just thinking it would surely cut down the cost of expensive motors. Also do away with the soft rubber compound.
                        Last but not least. How much fun would it be to have a racing crate model women 's league. That's something Ray Cook should be thinking about in his series. Grandstand's would be packed

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                        • Highside Hustler25
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12965

                          #42
                          Folks been trying to save late models for 10 -15 years. I guess they are doing a good job cuz I see more late model specials nowadays then ever before. Literally every weekend there was a big dollar race somewhere close by. Probably another 1/2 dozen. Weekday shows as well. For a sport that is supposedly going down the chitter for years, is still surviving here.
                          8/13/16

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                          • usac7
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 242

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                            Folks been trying to save late models for 10 -15 years. I guess they are doing a good job cuz I see more late model specials nowadays then ever before. Literally every weekend there was a big dollar race somewhere close by. Probably another 1/2 dozen. Weekday shows as well. For a sport that is supposedly going down the chitter for years, is still surviving here.
                            Its been going on a lot longer than that. In 1975 my uncle got out of late models because engine costs had gotten insane. Only a few car owners could afford the high dollar engines at $7,000.

                            A few years ago I took that $7,000 as a starting point, looked up the annual rate of inflation and added that up through 2005. The cost for a 1975 $7,000 engine adjusted for inflation through 30 years was $30,000. In 2005, people were complaining that $30,000 engines were killing the sport.

                            Been going on for a very long time.

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                            • ZERO25
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 5240

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                              Folks been trying to save late models for 10 -15 years. I guess they are doing a good job cuz I see more late model specials nowadays then ever before. Literally every weekend there was a big dollar race somewhere close by. Probably another 1/2 dozen. Weekday shows as well. For a sport that is supposedly going down the chitter for years, is still surviving here.
                              Theres a reason theres so many ppv's now!

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                              • play4kps
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 595

                                #45
                                None of this is going to fix itself, The real problem is the large touring series sponsors. Lucas oil and the WOO corporate sponsors are the main reason the sport is dying at a grass roots level. Unless this gets addressed in the near future, you are going to have Nascar of dirt racing. You will have different tiers of cars.

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