Hoosier going to just a couple of tires

[manwplan]

having different versions of the same tire based on region would absolutely defeat the purpose of a universal tire rule

[Barbecueboy]

Universal tire rule,lol……. Purple dinosaur loses money that way, they won’t ever let it happen.

[weatherman85]

While I know it’d never happen, be nice if all sanctioning bodies and series could get together and decide to give a true off season by shutting everything down for 3 - 4 months. Could give Hoosier a real shot to catch up on everything and maybe settle other strained supplies. I truly miss a real off season in DLM racing.

[over4T]

MBR, Yep the EC2 was a very durable tire that worked and lasted on our mostly sticky tracks and did fine on the bone slick ones too. McCreary's EC3 was a brick that would probably last much of a season...if you didn't care about running up front.

Their somewhat rare 0 model was a one night terror. A friend's sponsor bought him a set one night and he was usually a front runner but that night he was unreal. Checked out in the dash, the heat and the main and all 4 were down to the cords by end of the night on our local sticky red clay which wasn't known to be tough on tires. Sponsor never bought him another set.

Had 2 EC2s on my old LM parked behind the shop that had been sitting since 1996 with intentions of restoring it someday. The old tires still had 14 lbs. in them, something I can't say for our current Hoosiers after a week. Last year's NorCal fire took care of Old Blue so we'll never know their true lifespan.

[Action10]

Doug Bland was interviewed by Rigsby several years back for DoD. They discussed tires a ton, obviously... According to Bland, he made a proposal to Hoosier to cut down on the different tire compounds being used in different parts of the country and have a universal tire rule. Hoosier didn't want that, so he took the proposal to Goodyear. I'm not saying Hoosier is the whole problem, but they are definitely part of it.

[zyoung25]

Doug Bland was interviewed by Rigsby several years back for DoD. They discussed tires a ton, obviously... According to Bland, he made a proposal to Hoosier to cut down on the different tire compounds being used in different parts of the country and have a universal tire rule. Hoosier didn't want that, so he took the proposal to Goodyear. I'm not saying Hoosier is the whole problem, but they are definitely part of it.

Bland had some good ideas, and I feel like this was one of them.

[Josh Bayko]

410 winged sprint cars run two compounds of Hoosiers from coast to coast at all the tracks. I don’t see why it would be an issue to do the same in late models.

[Josh Bayko]

having different versions of the same tire based on region would absolutely defeat the purpose of a universal tire rule

It really wouldn’t. The ties would be legal everywhere regardless of whoever sold the tire to the racer in question. If you bought it in UMP country and wanted to run it in Georgia it would be legal and vice versa. The only difference would be which supplier gets the spiff.

[Barbecueboy]

Answers to post 22…..money, power and control.

[ImCryn2]

"It really wouldn’t. The ties would be legal everywhere regardless of whoever sold the tire to the racer in question. If you bought it in UMP country and wanted to run it in Georgia it would be legal and vice versa. The only difference would be which supplier gets the spiff."

Why even mark them different then? The supplier already knows who they sell tires to and how many they sell.

[stock car driver]

They can make a tire that doesnt drop off each cycle...

The IMCA G60 tire today is junk and is best new period. BUT when Hoosier first took over from American Racer years ago, the tires worked great multiple nights in a row. NOW the american racer works multiple nights and it did not when they were the IMCA tire.

The non stamped g60 hoosier makes also works great even after a few heat cycles.

[ZERO25]

Answers to post 22…..money, power and control.

And probly the real back door owner of Blue Ridge Lab!

[manwplan]

Come on Bayko you're smarter than that. Do you actually thing UMP/WRG is going to let you run a tire they didn't get their $$$ for? Again if we have a universal accepted rule there isn't a need for region specific marked tires.

[flagone]

The plan is for Hoosier to produce only 3 compounds for Super Late Models. Not to be called any current incarnation. Likely Soft, Medium and Hard. They had intended to begin in Aug with a RR tire but the timeline has been pushed a bit later as they navigate production.

It is basic economics to know that the fewer part numbers produced the more profit available. Fewer part numbers equals less needed "ingredients" and the ability to purchase more of the needed ingredients at a cheaper rate in bulk. There are reduced downtimes for retooling / reformulating and therefore increased efficiency.

[Josh Bayko]

Come on Bayko you're smarter than that. Do you actually thing UMP/WRG is going to let you run a tire they didn't get their $$$ for? Again if we have a universal accepted rule there isn't a need for region specific marked tires.

As mentioned in this very thread, there are UMP 30s in Wissota that are not UMP branded. Just because all the tires are going to the compounds there currently use for UMP doesn’t mean they are going to be UMP tires.