Tire situation for 2023

[Josh Bayko]

Can you say monopoly

You can say that until you’re blue in the face, but Hoosier isn’t a monopoly.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

^^its very close to a monopoly. Dirt late model tires are basically a duopoly, where one participant is hampered by its own poor operation and the artificial barriers to entry thrown up by the better run participant.

[dirtcrazy4u]

They have very little competition in the dirt track tire business. No one can produce the number of tires that Hoosier puts out there. There's a reason other tire companies don't want to produce dirt track rubber, I don't know what but the market is there for the taking and you would think one of the major tire companies would give Hoosier a run for a pc of the market. If American Racer could produce the same ammount of tires, then I think you could call it a monopoly.

[ride height]

There is a reason they are referred to as the Purple Mafia. I don’t know how any middle class individual races anymore. I truly don’t. The cost is way past ridiculous.

[dirtcrazy4u]

Back in our day, you plucked down 10 grand and you could become a Hoosier tire dealer. We did, and got dealer pricing.

I know many teams that took advantage of it. You know whores don't care who's doing what, they only want there cash up front. That's what we used to say about them back then. Has it changed, I doubt it.

[golddirt]

A monopoly is absence of competition hence making Hoosier the only supplier So yes it is a monopoly

[Josh Bayko]

A monopoly is absence of competition hence making Hoosier the only supplier So yes it is a monopoly

American Racer exists and supplies a fair amount of racers, although it’s generally in other divisions, especially modifieds and asphalt late models.

[latemodelman]

American Racers cant even supply a local track where I am in Ohio called Shadybowl Speedway so they opened the tire rule up to be able to run Hoosier and American Racer.

[Mopar DLM]

I still have an old McCreary GO-10 tire that I use to unload fuel drums with. Those tires were awesome. It didn't hurt when the old 28.5/14.0-15BT tires measured almost 18 inches across when mounted.

[B1 crew]

Looked on Wild West shootout 2023 tire rules and says 20 and 30 are allowed also and grooving and siping allowed on all. So much for the decreased tire man work.

[samgood]

As a racing enthusiast myself, I know firsthand how important it is to choose the right tire agent . Reading through the experiences and opinions of others in the thread has been eye-opening, and has really helped me feel more confident in my own decision-making process.

[Barbecueboy]

Tire rule, lol………

[over4T]

Our touring group is converting from pretty much run whatcha brung to the new national LM tire with this season being a burn off year with weight adjustments except that now have to be all Hoosier so I'm stuck with a bunch of new American Racer 11" tires. The new Hoosier rule will only allow the 1 & 2 on the left side and the harder 3 & 4 on the right or left. After seeing the new tires at a friend's shop last week Don't see how the 1 would make it through a heat race on the muddiest track and after a season with these wouldn't be surprised if our group didn't just settle on all 2 or 3 models. At $215 a pop weekend warriors' tire bills would about bankrupt a guy. Oddly the Hoosier Dirt Bozz, 8" version and out of production since 2020 and a durometer of around 55, can still whup many of the bigger tires and gets a weight penalty of 200 lbs. over the NLM tires. I've still got a dozen or more and am planning on using them up first. Should be interesting.