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[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You are 100% correct ride height. I'm not sure if or when we quit using the finish line to determine races.

[t3r3e3]

You are 100% correct ride height. I'm not sure if or when we quit using the finish line to determine races.

Hudson won that race at the finish line. Transponder location shenanigans are lame. Congrats to Bobby though.

[Highside Hustler25]

It's pretty obvious that some are just a little biased. Do you really think Flo sets their camera's perfectly perpendicular to the start finish line? The camera view everyone watched on Flo is not guaranteed perfect. Sure it looked like Hud won. I thought he won. Went straight to race monitor. Pierce by .002 seconds.
Why anyone would think live timing is not the accurate way to determine the winner is by me.
And by the way, I'm pullin for Huddy to win it. Not Pierce. But again, I try not to let favoritism sway my opinion like some do.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

It's pretty obvious that some are just a little biased. Do you really think Flo sets their camera's perfectly perpendicular to the start finish line? The camera view everyone watched on Flo is not guaranteed perfect. Sure it looked like Hud won. I thought he won. Went straight to race monitor. Pierce by .002 seconds.
Why anyone would think live timing is not the accurate way to determine the winner is by me.
And by the way, I'm pullin for Huddy to win it. Not Pierce. But again, I try not to let favoritism sway my opinion like some do.

I hate Mark Richards. His car won by 4 photo angles. His car has P1 on the lap by lap data on MRP

I've seen eldora overturn a finish when the video clearly shows one car and " lap data" said another.

[ride height]

It's pretty obvious that some are just a little biased. Do you really think Flo sets their camera's perfectly perpendicular to the start finish line? The camera view everyone watched on Flo is not guaranteed perfect. Sure it looked like Hud won. I thought he won. Went straight to race monitor. Pierce by .002 seconds.
Why anyone would think live timing is not the accurate way to determine the winner is by me.
And by the way, I'm pullin for Huddy to win it. Not Pierce. But again, I try not to let favoritism sway my opinion like some do.

Going by your logic on the transponders…which I agree in a perfect world it’s hard to argue with a computer on timing….the transponders would have to be placed EXACTLY in the same place on every car. Which I’m sure it’s not. So…it’s.the transponders that win…not the actual car. I personally don’t care which car wins….but I do care if someone gets cheated by a computer or it’s sensor placement. Both of these kids are hard racing drivers. Let’s let the car thats nose actually hits the finish line first be the winner, (i.e…a horse race) not a device that’s not even on the very front of the car.

[bleedblue55]

Same scenario happened with Rocket1 a couple years ago, but Shepp was awarded the victory. Happened at the midwest track that has a 1/4 mile inside a 1/2 mile that share the front straightaway. Transponders said one thing, eyesight said different. If you score the entire race by transponder there's no need for discussion. Maybe tracks should have indicators showing exactly where the scoring loops are.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Ride height, the problem is there is no way to put it on the exact same spot unless it's the tip of the nose. A race is won when a person or vehicle breaks an imaginary vertical plane at a finish line.

You put it on the rr axle tube, my nose can be well behind the other guy, if I'm running real sideways, and I'll be declared the winner by transponder

[ride height]

There aren’t transponders on horses and I assure you the photo finishes are commonplace. They have no problem awarding the proper winner. Again…the transponders and the computer….you can’t argue with they accuracy of time, but unless they are mounted on the very tip of the nose…, you’re going have this sort of thing. It’s not an opinion…it’s physics. This is assuming the finish line in directly in front of the flagman. If the finish line is 5 yards to the left of the flagman…in this case…then 32 clearly is the winner. But anybody with normal vision can see the blue cars nose crosses in front of the flagman first. Albeit it’s very very close. Transponders are excellent for timing and scoring UNTIL you have a case like this.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

I hate Mark Richards.

so doesn't lucas apparently.

dirty bobby got a gift.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I agree 100%. They are a scoring tool. They are not an absolute judge or arbiter.

They can only become absolute, if you suspend the concept of how a race has been won since the dawn of man.

[waaac77]

How do they not put the transponder on the nose??? The back rr axle… are you kidding? if I was a 10 year old kid I’d think to put the transponder on the front of my bicycle. The back of the f***ing car? Haha that can’t be correct. It’s really placed at the back of the car?

[gorj]

The scoring loop may be a know fact among the series and competitors for scoring. I’m watching from home.

[gorj]

Another tough call to be made by Rick and staff. I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes. James did mention they checked to verify the transponders were mounted at the same location on each car. 2023 LOLMDS Rule Book-
F.) Checkered Flag
i.) The checkered flag signifies the completion of the event. All cars must pass underneath the checkered flag to be scored correctly on the final lap of the event.
ii.) Any race and/or qualifying attempt is not completed until the checkered flag is displayed.

[Snake X3]

To avoid the ridiculous accusations of favoritism, there has to be an impartial judge for the winner. Transponders are used so these idiot conspiracy theorists don't have a leg to stand on, yet it doesn't stop them anyway. It looked to me like Hud was the first to the line, but the computers, which are impartial said no.

I feel awful for Hud. He's a good kid. But Bobby won. End of story.

[Barbecueboy]

I hate Mark Richards. His car won by 4 photo angles. His car has P1 on the lap by lap data on MRP

I've seen eldora overturn a finish when the video clearly shows one car and " lap data" said another.

People hate Mark Richards?? Jk mastersbilt…..it looked like rocket 1 won it to me from the recliner also.
Not sure how anyone can bitch about how it was scored when they use the transponder literally for every official timed lap……hook ‘em horns and congrats to the 32 crew.