Lucas Oil

[Highside Hustler25]

As long as they have been in use, I'm surprised the chassis manufacturers haven't come up with a universal mounting spot on a lateral piece of tubing.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

As long as they have been in use, I'm surprised the chassis manufacturers haven't come up with a universal mounting spot on a lateral piece of tubing.

Then it would just get cheated.

[dirtcrazy4u]

Huh, remember when it was the first car under the flagman's checkered flag ? No poll 5 ft before or after the flag. I guess if someone in the booth wanted a particular driver/car to win they could. Technology, blah.

[BloomerHarvickFan]

Huh, remember when it was the first car under the flagman's checkered flag ? No poll 5 ft before or after the flag. I guess if someone in the booth wanted a particular driver/car to win they could. Technology, blah.

But where? Edge of stand? at the flagman himself? When cars are that close, you HAVE to have some definitive plane that has be broken. In asphalt racing it's the line painted on the track. Since dirt tracks can't do this, there has to be an objective point that is the finish line.

[Barbecueboy]

The lady in the foothills of NC makes the official call about a week later……what’s all this talk of an official finish the night of the race??

[Buford.Justice]

Wherever the line is buried under the dirt, the finish line is about 8 feet past that point. The line is usually ran inside a PVC pipe and buried about a foot or even less under the dirt.

So one can't really see or know where that is unless they ask the propmoter or track official, or a series official when they are at the track with one of their events.

Or at least that was how it was a few years ago. There may be changes since then.

[Billy_the_kid]

Its called technology. like it or not, its about the only way to really decide a close race. regardless of where it lies on the track. Drivers know this. Drivers have accepted it and moved on, 4m hasnt. If you didnt have it you would still have the exact same arguement.

[kidrock]

Its called technology. like it or not, its about the only way to really decide a close race. regardless of where it lies on the track. Drivers know this. Drivers have accepted it and moved on, 4m hasnt. If you didnt have it you would still have the exact same arguement.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

i see russ is back under his other name lol.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Its called technology. like it or not, its about the only way to really decide a close race. regardless of where it lies on the track. Drivers know this. Drivers have accepted it and moved on, 4m hasnt. If you didnt have it you would still have the exact same arguement.

You are 100% incorrect. Without proper up front preparation the accuracy is horrible compared to visual means.

[kidrock]

I'm curious has any of the drivers discussed this topic. I would be interested in what they have to say because really that's all that matters

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm curious has any of the drivers discussed this topic. I would be interested in what they have to say because really that's all that matters

Drivers have a special consideration vs other team members? I can't possibly agree with that either. Then I assume you will also tell me only about 10 of those drivers matter and all the other drivers who suffer from copycat procedures across the country don't matter either. Some times Lucas and Woo actually apply pressure to other regional series to go along with them. Sometimes it just happens because it's easy to copy and paste. In either case, we get forced to deal with their reactionary procedures, politics, and general failure.

Tim McCreadie fails to separate the effects of the droop rule on the field vs just his own car.

I wouldn't go to Charlie Swartz to get a vasectomy.

I wouldn't expect Brandon Sheppard to do the math and come up with all the ways a transponder can and often does declare the wrong winner. He's good manipulating pedals and a steering wheel. He may be good at physics and math, but I wouldn't expect it.

[GrocMax]

Name ONE big money race series that doesn't revert to a 'photo finish'. F1? NASCRAP? Dog or Horse racing? World Rally? Pretty much anything Track and Field or winter sports aka Olympics? Name one.

[GrocMax]

https://youtu.be/PbgwSzgQqGY?t=236 Very similar to the Lucas race in question. Nobody argued about the call.

[kidrock]

Drivers have a special consideration vs other team members? I can't possibly agree with that either. Then I assume you will also tell me only about 10 of those drivers matter and all the other drivers who suffer from copycat procedures across the country don't matter either. Some times Lucas and Woo actually apply pressure to other regional series to go along with them. Sometimes it just happens because it's easy to copy and paste. In either case, we get forced to deal with their reactionary procedures, politics, and general failure.

Tim McCreadie fails to separate the effects of the droop rule on the field vs just his own car.

I wouldn't go to Charlie Swartz to get a vasectomy.

I wouldn't expect Brandon Sheppard to do the math and come up with all the ways a transponder can and often does declare the wrong winner. He's good manipulating pedals and a steering wheel. He may be good at physics and math, but I wouldn't expect it.

You make a good point and I do apologize that I wasn't more specific and included the whole team but, I will say it again as long as the team knows how they determine a winner that's all that matters. Any team that enters the race is important not just the top tier teams.