Bobby Pierce Suspended for tire infraction at Volusia.

[blncfn57]

The guilty party still has their tire. I'm not sure anyone here knows what the sanction shows the guilty party as far as test results. If you have the tire, you can have your own tests performed.

IDK about all that. I doubt these teams keep every tire ever tested and document when/where it was tested. Most of these tires prolly didn't leave florida with the teams.

[Jb1390]

Why not cut the samples for the series and then cut two more for the team that go into a sealed light proof bag or container… once a failure comes in give the teams 48hrs to post the 5k protest fee… give 5 days to have there sealed samples and a team representative at the lab where they get to watch the chain of custody. Give them the benchmark #s range and when it comes out of the machine everyone gets to see the percentages of what is in it…. As part of the protest you use the team samples for the final ruling.. if the teams samples fall within the range Then they get there protest fee back minus testing cost and They keep all points and winnings… People don’t like things that leave questions and with the kind of money they are investing to run a series and the money that the series’s has for operating budget it would seem in everyone’s interest to be transparent. It would actually give credibility too the series then because they would have an out to say hey look there is a way to prove you didn’t cheat and it was a error on the series or lab with the original sample

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

IDK about all that. I doubt these teams keep every tire ever tested and document when/where it was tested. Most of these tires prolly didn't leave florida with the teams.

They probably don't, but they should

[EvelB7]

Bottom line, if you don't like or trust the series do not run it. Have no idea why the tires were wrong, but I do trust the series to be as fair as possible. Funny thing, at the kart track I see the same issues; we have a rule that you must purchase the fuel from the track. Guys will then bring their fuel over to be tested.... I always tell them, 'no need to test if you bought it from that pump, right?'....Tires are the biggest advantage to be gained, some are always going to keep trying to find that magical formula....

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So when do the 3 get to race again?

[blncfn57]

Bottom line, if you don't like or trust the series do not run it. Have no idea why the tires were wrong, but I do trust the series to be as fair as possible. Funny thing, at the kart track I see the same issues; we have a rule that you must purchase the fuel from the track. Guys will then bring their fuel over to be tested.... I always tell them, 'no need to test if you bought it from that pump, right?'....Tires are the biggest advantage to be gained, some are always going to keep trying to find that magical formula....

Maybe the fuel they bought at the track is legal, but their additive is in the tank? Devin says they bought their tires at the track, so at least in his case it wouldn't matter.

[EvelB7]

I guess my point is they all know the rules, procedures, etc.. I personally appreciate the tire testing; again, my opinion. I do run a couple of small series and it at least makes me feel that they are trying to give us a fair playing field. I may end up on the bad end of a test one day, will discuss it with the powers that be if it does but do not believe I would change my current mindset. The testing has been going on for years (I was involved with a couple of positive tests back in 2010, still believe those results were correct); have also been approached by the 'tire prep guru' with the latest 'undetectable' formula so I know it is still going on. Personally like Devin, Bobby and Bronson-never had an issue and hope to see them back running as soon as possible (or wherever the are able). They seem to be moving on from the issue, so I will as well.

[ZERO25]

The guilty party still has their tire. I'm not sure anyone here knows what the sanction shows the guilty party as far as test results. If you have the tire, you can have your own tests performed.

Amber Bronson said all they got was a phone call 5 mins before it was put on social media!

Theyre called outlaws for a reason........lettem juice!

[IL LM Fan]

If anyone is interested, Team Pierce has decided to run the Lucas shows at Brownstown and Atomic Saturday and Sunday. So he'll be on Flo.
Angie will be there with the souvenir trailer.

[TBSprintFan]

Did any of the driver's appeal the decision? I thought that they only had 7 days to appeal, haven't heard anything.

[lurker]

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Lurker,

We don't know the pass/fail criteria or the reason they failed. It's also not owed to the general public. I'm sure every batch isn't 100% the same, but they may get double the leeway to make up for it. The type of test used flags compounds that don't belong. They are not getting popped for having 49% mass of a compound instead of 45%.

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The guilty party still has their tire. I'm not sure anyone here knows what the sanction shows the guilty party as far as test results. If you have the tire, you can have your own tests performed.

I’m a bit confused.

If you have the tire, and send it to another lab for testing, how do you know what the baseline is? Let alone the pass/fail criteria? Compounds that don't belong? And so forth. Would BRL tell another lab what the pass/fail criteria is? Just looking for clarification, nothing more. Thanks in advance.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Baseline is easy. Buy an unaltered tire.

[lurker]

Thank you MasterSbilt_Racer.