Bobby Pierce Suspended for tire infraction at Volusia.

[Barbecueboy]

Has there ever been a failed tire test to come back where a driver said "OK, I did it."?

Has Hoosier,blue ridge or any of the series ever admitted there were mistakes made in the process? I can think of one.

[Kromulous]

Lets face it tire testing is a joke.

I say, turn it lose. You wanna soften tires have at it.

Just combat it in different ways. Spec tires at the track, sell Event tires etc

There is no reason a Crown Jewel event couldnt restrict tires to Event only tires.

[Flathead]

7 pages of tire doping experts on here and not a one of you has admitted they’ve done it….I’ve done it and know plenty of people that have and still do. I’m not saying any of those 3 are guilty because I don’t know. What I do know is that there’s plenty of teams out there that do, and there’s lot that don’t. Teams push the envelope on the rules to see what they can get by with and tires are the same, just like droop, deck heights, bodies and shocks. Teams that dope tires send their own samples to the labs and have them tested themselves so they can see how far they can push it and stay within the benchmark. The benchmark has a tolerance and as long as you stay in that tolerance the tire is good. The main reason people dope tires are that it helps keep a tire from sealing over under caution, which in return makes it fire better on a restart.

If all the cars in a feature are 100% legal, the same drivers are gonna run in the top 5-10 and the guys that run in the back of the pack every race are gonna finish there. If the entire field is cheating it’s still going to be the same drivers in the top 5-10 and the same drivers finishing in the back of the pack. It doesn’t matter if it’s tire dope, traction control or magical Rumley devices you can’t take a guy that finishes in the back of the pack every race and make him a front runner by cheating.

[Barbecueboy]

Lets face it tire testing is a joke.

I say, turn it lose. You wanna soften tires have at it.

Just combat it in different ways. Spec tires at the track, sell Event tires etc

There is no reason a Crown Jewel event couldnt restrict tires to Event only tires.

Stop making sense sir……no room for that when the discussion is the tire rule,lol.

[King1]

I admitted it on another thread. Even told people how to apply. If anyone asks, I’ll tell you where to buy it. When you search the guy on Facebook, check to see how many friends you have in common, that’ll tell you which of your competitors are using it.

He’s friends with quite a few people I was racing against.

[Highside Hustler25]

Teams that dope tires send their own samples to the lab to see how far they can push it.

That's a interesting statement there Flathead. Never thought that was a option but makes sense if you're doping them up.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Flathead,

As close as the field is these days, Rumley Device easily take mid pack car to the front, but I agree with the rest.

[weatherman85]

I can't speak for dirt teams, but I do know of an asphalt team that dopes and sends their own tires to labs for testing to see where they stand. No reason why Dirt Late Model teams haven't thought of doing this as well. Probably why they get up in arms about running over a substance on the track or in the pits as the simple reason they fail. They are already pushing the tolerance boundaries as close as they can to where a simple patch of a substance would tip the balance.

[dirtcrazy4u]

Because I don't know. What tire do they sample RR, LR, RF ? How many drivers have made comments about I used the RF up. LR, I had no drive off the corner. RR, it sealed over. Last time I looked if you don't have 3 of 4 tires working your not winning. It's crap that they don't tell the accused what chemical was used, even if that can be determined.

[slmcrewchief99]

Why would they tell everyone what they found in the tire? All that does is take away their edge of catching the next guy. Transparency does not benefit the series that sent in the sample.

[blncfn57]

Why would they tell everyone what they found in the tire? All that does is take away their edge of catching the next guy. Transparency does not benefit the series that sent in the sample.

Are they worried about catching people cheating tires, or are they wanting to stop teams from doing it? I get it that maybe they think it's best that the general public doesn't know the results, but to not tell the teams makes it look like they're hiding something. By not saying what it was, that's less anyone can dispute. Pretty chicken$hit to accuse someone of something and not allow them access to the evidence. IMO

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Are they worried about catching people cheating tires, or are they wanting to stop teams from doing it? I get it that maybe they think it's best that the general public doesn't know the results, but to not tell the teams makes it look like they're hiding something. By not saying what it was, that's less anyone can dispute. Pretty chicken$hit to accuse someone of something and not allow them access to the evidence. IMO

The guilty party still has their tire. I'm not sure anyone here knows what the sanction shows the guilty party as far as test results. If you have the tire, you can have your own tests performed.

[Barbecueboy]

The guilty party still has their tire. I'm not sure anyone here knows what the sanction shows the guilty party as far as test results. If you have the tire, you can have your own tests performed.

But then the claim from the series will be that they cheated that up too…..no winners here.
Tire rule,lol

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Barbecue,

It's for your own information, at that point. I think the whole thing is a waste of time. Just pointing out that people who have been popped can get themselves out of the dark, if they are actually in it.

[Barbecueboy]

Gotcha…sorry mb, the whole thing is just a joke at this stage of the game……