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  • riddle28
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1088

    #31
    Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
    C. Driver Side Intrusion Plate

    a. A minimum one-eighth inch (1/8”) thick magnetic steel intrusion plate on the driver’s side door bars is mandatory.
    b. Approved installations:

    i. Welded plates- Individual plates between door bars are permitted but must be welded around the perimeter of each opening. The minimum area covered is sixteen inches (16”) by twenty-six inches (26”).
    ii. A minimum of sixteen-inch (16”) x twenty-six-inch (26”) plate bolted to fabricated one-eighth inch (1/8”) magnetic steel tabs, welded securely to the chassis, using a minimum of eight (8) x three-eighths of an inch (3/8”) Allen button head bolts. A minimum of three (3) fabricated one-eighth of an inch (1/8”) magnetic steel tabs and three-eighths of an inch (3/8”) Allen button head bolts required across the top of the intrusion plate, a minimum of three (3) fabricated one-eighth of an inch (1/8”) magnetic steel tabs and three-eighths of an inch (3/8”) Allen button head bolts required across the bottom of the plate, and one (1) fabricated one-eighth of an inch (1/8”) magnetic steel tabs and three-eighths of an inch (3/8”) Allen button head bolt in each in the middle front and middle rear of intrusion plate.
    iii. A minimum of sixteen-inch (16”) x twenty-six-inch (26”) plate bolted to a minimum of six (6) approved-design door bar clamps using the included twelve (12) x one-half-inch (1/2”) Allen button head bolts per the manufacturer’s specification. A minimum of three (3) approved-design door bar clamps and the included six (6) x one-half-inch (1/2”) Allen button head bolts required across the top of the intrusion plate and three (3) approved-design door bar clamps and included six (6) x one-half-inch (1/2”) Allen button head bolts required across the bottom of intrusion plate. The vendor and part number must be clearly labeled on the part.
    iv. Currently approved door bar clamps:

    1. Bicknell Racing Products – Part Number: BRP 954
    2. Wehrs Machine & Racing Products – Part Number: WM397
    3. Allstar Performance – Part Number: ALL4198
    probably a combination of tabs and clamps

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    • Flathead
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 158

      #32
      I don’t care what is or what isn’t on the XR2. Just the fact that Mark Richards is the all time most hated man on 4M and now everyone on here thinks they know exactly what he’s done to get back to being competitive. If he keeps digging and getting a little better some of the people on this message board may secretly start wearing XR2 T-shirts.

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      • billetbirdcage
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2020

        #33
        Couple Notes:

        1. I have been told previously that you can't mix the 3 types of mounting on a door plate by a Lucas oil official going thru tech so. . . shrugs.

        2. I have no hate for Mark, very few work as hard as Mark. Was the door bar thing an oversite or got approval?, who knows but doesn't seem to follow the rule book. It wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer sold cars that were not up to the rule book (think GRT and their modifies several years back) or bloomers cars that had undersized door bars 1 3/8).

        3. I have not verified yet, but I'm gonna say the reduction in weight includes the non shown door plate. A solid 1/8" plate that size weighs 16# alone and there are so many missing bars that the 20# to 30# seems about right for whats missing over the XR1

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        • blncfn57
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2013

          #34
          So your whole assessment is based off pictures?

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          • Flathead
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 158

            #35
            Billet birdcage, I’ve seen one of your GRT copies that you made back around 07 or 08 and you claimed that you “fixed” everything that was wrong with a GRT at the time. Tell everyone here on 4M how well it worked out. I’ll just go ahead and say that you probably don’t need to be worrying about what Mark Richards does, he’s not gonna call you for advice.
            Last edited by Flathead; 08-06-2025, 07:56 PM.

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            • doyle hargraves
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 158

              #36
              Originally posted by Flathead View Post
              I don’t care what is or what isn’t on the XR2. Just the fact that Mark Richards is the all time most hated man on 4M and now everyone on here thinks they know exactly what he’s done to get back to being competitive. If he keeps digging and getting a little better some of the people on this message board may secretly start wearing XR2 T-shirts.
              I’m sorry I thought we were talking about the difference between the 1.2 and the 2

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14320

                #37
                Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                So your whole assessment is based off pictures?
                What more is required for counting?
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14320

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Flathead View Post
                  Billet birdcage, I’ve seen one of your GRT copies that you made back around 07 or 08 and you claimed that you “fixed” everything that was wrong with a GRT at the time. Tell everyone here on 4M how well it worked out. I’ll just go ahead and say that you probably don’t need to be worrying about what Mark Richards does, he’s not gonna call you for advice.
                  He probably could have figured things out faster if he made the call.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • profab00
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 110

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Flathead View Post
                    Billet birdcage, I’ve seen one of your GRT copies that you made back around 07 or 08 and you claimed that you “fixed” everything that was wrong with a GRT at the time. Tell everyone here on 4M how well it worked out. I’ll just go ahead and say that you probably don’t need to be worrying about what Mark Richards does, he’s not gonna call you for advice.
                    Had one of the cars spoken about here, technology was way ahead of the competition at that time.

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                    • Flathead
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 158

                      #40
                      I stand corrected Profab00. I just got off the phone with Mark Richards and did confirm that he’s been collaborating with billetbirdcage on the design of the XR2, since he copied a GRT 20 years ago and it was far ahead of its time.

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14320

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Flathead View Post
                        I stand corrected Profab00. I just got off the phone with Mark Richards and did confirm that he’s been collaborating with billetbirdcage on the design of the XR2, since he copied a GRT 20 years ago and it was far ahead of its time.
                        As if a call from Mark would be in itself validating...

                        I mean Flathead has spoken already.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • blncfn57
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2013

                          #42
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

                          What more is required for counting?
                          Well, for starters, the pictures I have seen were not clear enough to to tell if what he's saying is true or not. If there are clear pictures, I agree....but post them so everyone can follow along.

                          Bottom line is, it does not matter. Nobody running a series is getting disqualified over it anyway. It's one of those 'fix it before you bring it back' deals at best.

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                          • hardracer32
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 450

                            #43
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            I guess it's the easiest way to make it fast, if you can repeat the process. The cars are go karts functionally. It's totally wrong for a car with suspension.
                            So are you saying a stiff car is better or a more flexible car is better? I've always felt like a flexible car is unpredictable and hard to zero in on a setup.

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                            • foxfire2dirtracing
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2297

                              #44
                              #20 Jimmy Owens in a new XR2 at Florence

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14320

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hardracer32 View Post

                                So are you saying a stiff car is better or a more flexible car is better? I've always felt like a flexible car is unpredictable and hard to zero in on a setup.
                                I'll take a stiff car always. But, it's hard to mess up a flexible one. Changes have small effect.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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