Seven Cars at Toccua

[MRM]

Southern super late model racing is all but dead.

Most have quit or switched to crate racing.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Dead everywhere but the south has to (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) many classes of late models

Despite Lucas and woo's best efforts, there are still pockets of resistance.

[MRM]

I said several years ago that Lucas and WoO need to start, or buy, their own feeder series. It would give drivers a chance to sample some traveling and encourage drivers to move up to that instead of straight to the national tours where many aren't prepared.

[lurker]

I said several years ago that Lucas and WoO need to start, or buy, their own feeder series

The World of Outlaws Sprints series tried that in 2000-2002 with the Gumout feeder series and it didn't fly.


This is from 2024.

https://mastergassers.com/2024/02/21/revisiting-the-gumout-support-series/

In recent years, the All Stars served as the “regional” 410 sprint car series. Since they were purchased by High Limit Racing, a regional void was created. A regional void that was talked about nonstop during the offseason and one that was not ignored by WRG CEO Brian Carter. In an early interview after the High Limit news was announced, Carter mentioned the possibility of a regional series being in the cards for WRG.

Those comments are now coming full circle with these new rumors. WRG is well-aware of the mistakes made from 2000-2002 and they won’t make those mistakes again. If they were to start a regional “feeder” series, it would most likely not be visiting 18 different states. It would likely be more focused on 410 sprint cars, while still having something for the 360’s. Carter and WRG know where the void is and they know where the most sprint cars in the country exist. Time will tell if there is any validity to these rumors, but don’t be surprised if something like this does end up happening.

[MRM]

They need to do something. Pretty soon, a majority of late model drivers will be racing crates. Those guys won't be moving up unless a big-time owner knocks on their door.

[lurker]

They need to do something.

While I don’t necessarily disagree with the point you are making —-------- the MARS series up North, and the Hunt the Front series down South appear to be what we’re given at this time. Both series have some decent racing and the HTF series really depends on track size and track surface conditions. That said, I don’t consider either of the series I mentioned as National Tours.

[Josh Bayko]

They need to do something. Pretty soon, a majority of late model drivers will be racing crates. Those guys won't be moving up unless a big-time owner knocks on their door.

There’s still a bunch of weekly supers here in PA/OH/WV, Everywhere else is not as dire as the south.

[Jking24]

What did it pay for 5th-10th ? That's what people fail to see latemodel purses are very top loaded and especially in regional super racing theirs alot of guys that know they probably can't win so they don't show that's kinda the silver lining to the 3500-5000 to win shows in the mid ohio and central Illinois area. It's low enough to keep the big guys from coming in and taking it per say but high enough that it's decent money for the local/regional guy so they get good car counts. If it's car count your after you need to pay better through the feild

[Henry Every]

I said several years ago that Lucas and WoO need to start, or buy, their own feeder series. It would give drivers a chance to sample some traveling and encourage drivers to move up to that instead of straight to the national tours where many aren't prepared.

Don't we already have a dozens regional series...? Its the cost, born out of the current rule/car configuration, resulting in cars that are FAR too hooked up. This led to a lack of weekly Super tracks so your only alternative IS to travel or run Crate/Limited. 10-15 years ago they experimented with letting the CT525 run with big spoiler and low weight(which was only competitive in certain situations, but even so the "Haves" complained(looking at you Shane Clanton). So in response the promoters and rule making retards, they used the logic that because the CT525 was made of aluminum this made it equally comparable to a full blown super engine and should thus weight the same, erasing its competitive situation. I'm no fan of crates, I think they suck, but the CT525 did offer a slim chance of being competitive. Nowadays I don't think it would matter. Problem is, nobody wants to touch the car for fear of losing support, so we must wait for the collapse and hopefully rebuild at some point. At some point the economics will catch up and even then the series will no longer be able to draw a full field of competitors...(its already happened to Lucas at least once)