Has Lucas oil put the ban on FRIC ? And inerters?

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  • Brian Gray
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1102

    #1

    Has Lucas oil put the ban on FRIC ? And inerters?

    I'm hearing they have put in place a ban on certain types of dampeners but no one has made it clear.

    If so I applaud them at being the first and hope everyone else gets a clue before this ruins our sport for good.
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  • davis2902
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 527

    #2
    From the mouth of Richie Lewis. YES! Siting cost as the major factor. The other being that Bloomquist had unfair advantage.
    Last edited by davis2902; 02-07-2015, 08:16 PM.

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    • mopar92
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 128

      #3
      Care to elaborate on these shocks ?

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      • Brian Gray
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1102

        #4
        In a nut shell . Inerters are dampers that control oscillation of the tire contact patch . And FRIC is front to rear left to right integration of the damper system.

        This is a very expensive and tech intensive technology used in Indy car and f1 .

        And believed to be the advantage bloomquist used at the world 100 in 2014.

        This is a killer to our sport I hope this will be taken care of soon.
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        • Cast-Iron-Junkie
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 904

          #5
          Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
          In a nut shell . Inerters are dampers that control oscillation of the tire contact patch . And FRIC is front to rear left to right integration of the damper system.
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          This is a very expensive and tech intensive technology used in Indy car and f1 .

          And believed to be the advantage bloomquist used at the world 100 in 2014.

          This is a killer to our sport I hope this will be taken care of soon.
          Brian, "controls oscillation of the tire contact patch".....really?

          Where's good ole' Huck Tyson when you need him?

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          • chupp n bloomer fan
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 11526

            #6
            Originally posted by Cast-Iron-Junkie View Post
            Brian, "controls oscillation of the tire contact patch".....really?

            Where's good ole' Huck Tyson when you need him?
            Just wait Cast, it'll be like white on rice.
            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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            • Cast-Iron-Junkie
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 904

              #7
              Lol @ ya C&B fan! Lol!

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              • davis2902
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 527

                #8
                Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
                In a nut shell . Inerters are dampers that control oscillation of the tire contact patch . And FRIC is front to rear left to right integration of the damper system.

                This is a very expensive and tech intensive technology used in Indy car and f1 .

                And believed to be the advantage bloomquist used at the world 100 in 2014.

                This is a killer to our sport I hope this will be taken care of soon.
                FRIC was banned by F1 in the middle of last season because of cost. On the other hand though, DLM thrived on innovation and experimental components through the 80's, 90's. At some point some leeway has to be given or the sport will be just like NASCRAP now, which is now no better than the disbanned IROC series.
                Last edited by davis2902; 02-08-2015, 11:28 AM.

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                • Brian Gray
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1102

                  #9
                  The inerters are a more interesting concept to me . After talking with the Indy team from Penske at PRI I got a serious education and reality check on the benefits of using them on a race car.

                  The late model side of Penske dodged every question I threw at them but the Indy people were very open about the subject.

                  Just imagine being able to control the surface of the tire mechanically ! This is a possibility with today's technolgy. But it would take every team having an engineer on hand to use it effectively !
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                  • Brian Gray
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1102

                    #10
                    And believe me Penske wants to sell this to every racer out there. That's why they are being so quiet about it right now! They know it's too expensive and the series will outlaw it. As it should be .

                    It's the human element that makes racing competitive. When a mechanical system can rid the human element it needs to be taken out of the equation.

                    Systems like these will hurt the racing tremendously, think it's follow the leader now imagine what happens when the consistency increases 10 fold.
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                    • Necrosis
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 379

                      #11
                      Except that they've been in drag racing for 10 years. Either way, ya'll conspiracy theorists make me laugh. Brian--Remember when you said you could tell how he cut his right rear tire at the World because of "the marks it left in the track"? Care to tell us what it was cut like?

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                      • Brian Gray
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1102

                        #12
                        You could see a perfect imprint left behind every time that car went past . Every other car left a skewed tire mark .

                        After my conversation with Penske it hit me how accurate bloomquist was with his tire control. So A: he is 100 times better a driver than the next best guy in our sport or b: they have a technological advantage no other team out there is using.

                        As far as drag racing goes its dead! Have you been to a local event at a drag strip lately?
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                        • Brian Gray
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1102

                          #13
                          And hell no I'm not gonna tell you what it looked like. Lol that's mine now.
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                          • Brian Gray
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1102

                            #14
                            If it's a conspiracy fine there should be no one against making the rules to stop what "no one" is using then right?

                            Should be a no brainier to take the step to prevent this overly expensive technology from causing more harm to our car counts.
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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14310

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Necrosis View Post
                              Except that they've been in drag racing for 10 years. Either way, ya'll conspiracy theorists make me laugh. Brian--Remember when you said you could tell how he cut his right rear tire at the World because of "the marks it left in the track"? Care to tell us what it was cut like?
                              Inerters are in drag racing. And the costs I have heard are insane!
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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