Has Lucas oil put the ban on FRIC ? And inerters?

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  • ClampedUp
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1131

    #16
    Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
    And believe me Penske wants to sell this to every racer out there. That's why they are being so quiet about it right now! They know it's too expensive and the series will outlaw it. As it should be .

    It's the human element that makes racing competitive. When a mechanical system can rid the human element it needs to be taken out of the equation.

    Systems like these will hurt the racing tremendously, think it's follow the leader now imagine what happens when the consistency increases 10 fold.
    Just like traction control was going to make everyone the greatest driver to hit the dirt track......

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    • Brian Gray
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1102

      #17
      Yes it has been outlawed by Lucas oil series. Now will ump make a ruling?
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      • Necrosis
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 379

        #18
        Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
        And hell no I'm not gonna tell you what it looked like. Lol that's mine now.
        Ok, you sure? Want to put your observation skills on the line with your credibility? I'll bet you $500. Donated to charity, of course. You a fan of the shriners? I am...

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        • Brian Gray
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1102

          #19
          All you had to do was stand next to the fence . You could take a pic of the tread pattern every lap. Prolly could have gotten a good read on the tire wear it was that perfect. But he doesn't do anything different to the blocks than the rest. I can tell you that.

          I don't know what your point is but it don't matter now cause the FRIC has ended. And to me that's good news. I got the confirmation I needed. I know what's up. Now I know I don't have to work on creating it.
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          • davis2902
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 527

            #20
            Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
            All you had to do was stand next to the fence . You could take a pic of the tread pattern every lap. Prolly could have gotten a good read on the tire wear it was that perfect. But he doesn't do anything different to the blocks than the rest. I can tell you that.

            I don't know what your point is but it don't matter now cause the FRIC has ended. And to me that's good news. I got the confirmation I needed. I know what's up. Now I know I don't have to work on creating it.
            Well technically FRIC is only deemed illegal in its hydraulic form. A mechanical version could still be used.

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            • robbie35
              Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 50

              #21
              At 18000 a pair plus custom valving and usage modification fees I for one am glad to hear this. The basic principle seems simple enough its the actual application that gets expensive. That and the fact that Cambridge University owns the rights to the intellectual property.

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              • Brian Gray
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1102

                #22
                Actually penske owns the patents.
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                • davis2902
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 527

                  #23
                  Originally posted by latemodefan
                  yeah go ahead and do penske and mercedes etc had to with fluids but youare saying it can be done mechanically on late model I am waiting lol

                  Ferrari had a cable system in 1970! The point is that with proper knowledge a mechanical application can be achieved. If you want to break it down even further a sway bar is a form of a mechanical FRIC system. Scott learned that in the NASCAR truck race at Eldora. Also isn't it ironic that a item that he didn't want on his truck is basically a more rudimentary form of want he ran to dominate the 2014 World 100.

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                  • Brian Gray
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1102

                    #24
                    Sway bar? Not the same actually the exact opposite of . FRIC can achieve the sway bar effects but its much more complex than that single aspect. Much more complex . I can see single influences through mechanical systems but nothing close to the abilities of the FRIC. Then you have the added weight to deal with.

                    There would be cables , levers and bars everywhere I hope people persue a mechanical version but I'm betting it won't come to pass.
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                    • _keith_
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 601

                      #25
                      Originally posted by davis2902 View Post
                      From the mouth of Richie Lewis. YES! Siting cost as the major factor. The other being that Bloomquist had unfair advantage.
                      Bloomquist Racing Team is always an "unfair advantage" when they show up at a race track.....l0l.....l0l

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                      • Necrosis
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 379

                        #26
                        The sky is dark, the thunder is rolling, and the showers are golden whence thou pisses upstream... Go thee to the sanitarium, with haste!

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                        • chupp n bloomer fan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 11526

                          #27
                          Originally posted by latemodefan
                          why would a racer of his caliber cheat please answer the question anybody that cheats must have a inferiority complex
                          They all bend the rules, not sure how you can't grasp this fact. And when he ran them, they WERE NOT ILLEGAL. Your love for Bloomer and holding him to a standard as if he's God is just hilarious.
                          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                          • _keith_
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 601

                            #28
                            Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
                            They all bend the rules, not sure how you can't grasp this fact. And when he ran them, they WERE NOT ILLEGAL. Your love for Bloomer and holding him to a standard as if he's God is just hilarious.
                            The don't really "bend" the rules.....l0l......It is called a Grey area.......

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                            • chupp n bloomer fan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 11526

                              #29
                              Originally posted by latemodefan
                              you are suppose use to coil or leaf springs oops you missed that one fric doesn't use springs
                              Didn't miss anything Liteman. If he had this supposed FRIC BS, why wasn't he DQued at Eldora? They black flagged him for a fukin fancy window net, which there wasn't any rule on. If he got away with this fancy system that's not on him, that's on the tech guys and the other drivers. It's the tech guys jobs to stop cheating etc, and drivers, if they feel they are being screwed, it's their job to speak up. The sh!t Bloomer does for the most part, there isn't a rule on it, when he does it. There's a rule after the fact usually. And unless you were under Bloomers car you know as much as me about what he had. Do I think he had something different, sure I do, was it against the rules at the time, nope.
                              Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                              • FlatTire
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 560

                                #30
                                I'll bet ole Smokey Yunick is grinning ear to ear. There never was a "rule" when Smokey did it, but there usually was afterwards.

                                Since the beginning of time, technical advantages(legal or not) have made good drivers great and great drivers dominant. Larry Phillips, Larry Moore, Rayburn, Shaw, were all highly innovative and dominated at one time because of their desire to come up with something no one else had. Bloomquist is no different. While little Billy Jr is tweeting about his fans eating cheeseburgers and how the track screwed him, Bloomer is in the shop thinking up his next advantage.
                                Last edited by FlatTire; 02-09-2015, 11:09 AM.

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