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  • hpmaster
    Banned
    • Aug 2009
    • 1088

    #61
    We got springs and sh(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)s all wrapped up. Back the cars in leave tires hanging on the car.This is a lot about nothing. It takes 2 or 3 years to train a good tech guy, I mean one you can talk into seeing things YOUR way most the time.

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    • high groove19
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 21

      #62
      The old STARS series did the same thing back in the 90's by taking the tarps away. Over the years it gradually went away. It will this time too. Once they feel that nobody is at a huge advantage like they feel Bloomquist is now.

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      • rickybrown1952
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 1448

        #63
        Its not the bloomer rule Moyer,o'Neal and a few others do the same thing
        I am what I am

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        • W2Racing09
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1691

          #64
          Originally posted by SuperEight View Post
          Somebody show me some proof that a FRIC system was on Bloomers car last fall or at Golden isles... Something other than Brian Gray's tire track conspiracy theory. Surely somebody took a picture. I think all of this comes out of the Rocket camp, they truly believe they are so superior that they can not be beat. If they do lose somebody was cheating, right? Pathetic.
          Man, you really hate Rocket don't you? You go from making up numbers to make them look bad, to blaming them in your conspiracy theories.

          Get a grip.

          Thanks,
          Jeff.

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          • davis2902
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 527

            #65
            No way was Scott running a FRIC system last year. The technical know-how along with on-track and wind tunnel testing that was required by F1 teams to make it work, would have been hard to cover-up. I lean more toward an inerter as a 5th coil. Much less testing involved and not as complicated.

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            • chasenracing2001
              Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 66

              #66
              This is coming from the series that is called Lucasquist. People posting he runs the Lucas tour. What a joke. Seems to me they have targeted him this year. Making level playing field? He won the major races but finished 3rd in points last year. Other drivers knew that he was on to something and instead of figuring it out they complained. What a joke.

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              • ClampedUp
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1131

                #67
                Never understood the Lucasquist moniker?? You have never seen any of Forrest Lucas's big company sponsors on Bloomquist's cars and they sure as heck never kissed his butt. Maybe I missed it???
                But, there are more than a few other drivers who have had their pockets greased and taken care of by Forrest Lucas......

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                • Brian Gray
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1102

                  #68
                  I was told by a very successful racer the other day " stay off 4m " but I just can't stop reading this stuff . You gotta love it
                  Shocks by BGR army

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                  • SuperEight
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 318

                    #69
                    Originally posted by RoundNrOUND View Post
                    Rocket wasn't the only one saying anything.... Not condoning the tattle tail crap but I for one am glad someone is trying to keep the cost of racing down. Do you know how much a shock package like that costs? Then do you realize how much testing would have to be done to make it work for you? It's not magic. Scott obviously did his homework and made it work, now it's against the rule, now he will have to find something else.
                    I never said I wanted these FRIC/Inerter systems, but I do want my wheel and tail covers, a lot of time and work goes into developing the right package and setup. The tech man is free to inspect to make sure I'm legal, but I don't want just anybody looking up my ladies skirt. I'm still waiting for the proof that Scott was running one of these systems. They act like he's never won from the back before or ever gone on a roll of victories.

                    Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
                    I never said Scott was cheating. I never said they don't do their homework. I never said bloomer even used this system. I don't doubt they were using something like it though.
                    Lucas has taken the steps to help keep cost down. If you cannot applaud a sanction for making effective rules to lower cost and improve the appearance of their product there is something wrong. Wrg has failed its racers on neirly every level to line a few peoples pockets with vendor dollars.

                    This is at least a start. Let's hope they keep up .
                    I never said you did say he was cheating, you implied very strongly that something was foul, that his immaculate tire tracks were all the evidence you need. Did you not? Finally one thing I agree with Brian Gray on, that WRG is a band of thieves, rapping the dirt racing community from top to bottom. It was much better back in the STARS/HAT/UMP/etc. days. Having so much control and say in one organization is bad.
                    Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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                    • Josh Bayko
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 8737

                      #70
                      Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                      Maybe Bloomquist will jump ship and run the WoO. Would love to see that.

                      Thanks,
                      Jeff.
                      I can't see Bloomer going with the WoO. If he drops off the full Lucas deal, you'll see him at all of Lucas' 20k+ races, all of the WoO's 20k+ races, any unsanctioned 20k + races and random other assorted shows he feels like running.
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                      • tsand
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 528

                        #71
                        scott did not have the fric system on at golden isle. guess you were not at the PRI show where penski was touting the sucess of scott had running the system last year. scott sucess was the main reason of bowyer off season change to penski. the system was going to retail for about 18 grand. scott was not doing anything illegal because there was no rule againest it at the time. but make no mistake he was running it at the end of last year. penski would not interduce a new system without on track testing under race conditions. one of the reason for don oneal struggles so far was off season testing was focus on this new system. cost was the main reason reason the system was outlawed.
                        Last edited by tsand; 02-11-2015, 07:44 PM.

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                        • Brian Gray
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1102

                          #72
                          My imply was he had such a good setup and car control you could see the imprint from the tire. Which you could see the detail in the tread marking clearly.

                          Now to be as good as he was at the world something was up. Was he cheating? I doubt it. Was he onto something big? He had to be. You don't just do what he did at the world and not have an advantage over every other team there. And no way is he that much better the the next top guy in our sport. It doesn't add up. One day you all will find out the story and it wasn't just an inerter on the lift bar. Lucas has saved more than a few of the teams out there from total annihilation.
                          Shocks by BGR army

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                          • fryefan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3547

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Tireguy17 View Post
                            Long overdue!! I applaud them for doing this.
                            Per Dirt on Dirt racewire for tonight's race @ East Bay.
                            No covering wheel openings or rear of car while in the pits. If they choose to, the car must weigh 50# more. Teams will get 1 warning.
                            Amen to that !!!!

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                            • racer67x
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 356

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
                              My imply was he had such a good setup and car control you could see the imprint from the tire. Which you could see the detail in the tread marking clearly.

                              Now to be as good as he was at the world something was up. Was he cheating? I doubt it. Was he onto something big? He had to be. You don't just do what he did at the world and not have an advantage over every other team there. And no way is he that much better the the next top guy in our sport. It doesn't add up. One day you all will find out the story and it wasn't just an inerter on the lift bar. Lucas has saved more than a few of the teams out there from total annihilation.
                              problem was that Scott tipped his hand at the World..if he'd have kept running them close then slipping by at the end he'd have had the advantage longer.
                              just like Newman at the dive bar in the "Hustler",Bloomer got pissed and said "just for that..I'm gonna beat you straight!".
                              and then they broke his thumbs...lol

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                              • zach51
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1362

                                #75
                                I'm not a suspension/geometry expert, but having raced for a short time myself and been a long-time fan, I know that all of the same drivers and crew running up and down the road together, you know they talk. I would have to assume that the drivers/crews know 99% of what the others have in/on their racecars. With that being said (playing devil's advocate to myself), the 1% that isn't known can make a big difference in a sport with so many quality cars and drivers.

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