This has got to be the stupidest thing I have heard of. Not sure why it matters if your car is covered or not. All cars must pass through Tech Inspection anyways. And for all you Bloomquist haters...He isn't going anywhere for quite a while.
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I can see somebody like bub McCool putting a fog machine under his stuff to keep prying eyes away from his set up..........the rule is stupid.Originally posted by race21j View PostAs the rule states no corving the rear wheels or back of the car.Try this it covers the whole car. The crews could always say that they are afraid of rain.
Classic , BANDaid knee jerk reaction........not very well thought out.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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Maybe Bloomquist will jump ship and run the WoO. Would love to see that.Originally posted by Barbecueboy View PostI can see somebody like bub McCool putting a fog machine under his stuff to keep prying eyes away from his set up..........the rule is stupid.
Classic , BANDaid knee jerk reaction........not very well thought out.
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I agree with that lol. You think he will build a team or teams and be there crew chef when he gets out the car?Originally posted by wheelpackin View PostThis has got to be the stupidest thing I have heard of. Not sure why it matters if your car is covered or not. All cars must pass through Tech Inspection anyways. And for all you Bloomquist haters...He isn't going anywhere for quite a while.
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As the originator of this thread I will tell you my thought and opinion, since everyone else is speculating on the reason for the rule change as well......
1. The covers, especially the tarps some use, look ridiculous. Its 1 thing to get the nice wheel and rear enclosure covers, its another to use a tarp or pit mats leaned up against the car. I think LO is trying to clean up the appearance of the pits more than anything. With more TV races and the exposure it brings, the more you want to clean the presentation of the product up.
2. How much do teams REALLY look at the competitions cars? They are all soo entrenched in prepping their own cars and tires, and keeping up with the track, that how much do they venture out to look? Soo do the covers do anything but add a sense of "what's going on under their car?"
3. You all act like in the evening during the races, their are spotlights under the cars and the covers kept everyone from seeing everything going on. Next time you are at a local race, look at a car (without covers) and see what little you can actually see, especially if the frame and bolt ons are black. Its very difficult. If the teams just keep "dummy tires" on all 4 corners you won't be able to see much at night, even with the trailer lights on from above. It's what you can't see, covers or not, that wins races (setup, shock setup, driver, etc)
It's not that big of a deal guys in my opinion and if it creates a little self-policing soo be it. But I think a lot of you are over-reacting.Last edited by Tireguy17; 02-11-2015, 11:15 AM.
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Very good post.......Originally posted by Tireguy17 View PostAs the originator of this thread I will tell you my thought and opinion, since everyone else is speculating on the reason for the rule change as well......
1. The covers, especially the tarps some use, look ridiculous. Its 1 thing to get the nice wheel and rear enclosure covers, its another to use a tarp or pit mats leaned up against the car. I think LO is trying to clean up the appearance of the pits more than anything. With more TV races and the exposure it brings, the more you want to clean the presentation of the product up.
2. How much do teams REALLY look at the competitions cars? They are all soo entrenched in prepping their own cars and tires, and keeping up with the track, that how much do they venture out to look? Soo do the covers do anything but add a sense of "what's going on under their car?"
3. You all act like in the evening during the races, their are spotlights under the cars and the covers kept everyone from seeing everything going on. Next time you are at a local race, look at a car (without covers) and see what little you can actually see, especially if the frame and bolt ons are black. Its very difficult. If the teams just keep "dummy tires" on all 4 corners you won't be able to see much at night, even with the trailer lights on from above. It's what you can't see, covers or not, that wins races (setup, shock setup, driver, etc)
It's not that big of a deal guys in my opinion and if it creates a little self-policing soo be it. But I think a lot of you are over-reacting.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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I wanna see a picture of this system on Bloomquists car. Put up, or shut up!
Somebody show me some proof that a FRIC system was on Bloomers car last fall or at Golden isles... Something other than Brian Gray's tire track conspiracy theory. Surely somebody took a picture. I think all of this comes out of the Rocket camp, they truly believe they are so superior that they can not be beat. If they do lose somebody was cheating, right? Pathetic.Originally posted by FlatTire View Postlol, this is good stuff. Cover or not, just how many times did our boy Bloomer run his FRIC system thru tech and they had no clue what they were looking at??? and thats with the freaking covers off!!! <----This is the real issue.
Somebody found out about what Bloomer was doing last fall when he got on a roll, got mad because they were getting beat, then ratted Bloomer out. During the offseason somebody gave the tech man a little schooling and they were all set to catch the big bad Black Sunshine. The trap was set before Golden Isles even began.
Outlawing/penalizing the car covers won't make the whiner who got all this started any faster! If they ever want to get ahead of technology, the tech man needs to be as smart & as knowledgeable as the best racer. I haven't seen one yet who is.Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.
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Rocket wasn't the only one saying anything.... Not condoning the tattle tail crap but I for one am glad someone is trying to keep the cost of racing down. Do you know how much a shock package like that costs? Then do you realize how much testing would have to be done to make it work for you? It's not magic. Scott obviously did his homework and made it work, now it's against the rule, now he will have to find something else.
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I never said Scott was cheating. I never said they don't do their homework. I never said bloomer even used this system. I don't doubt they were using something like it though.
Lucas has taken the steps to help keep cost down. If you cannot applaud a sanction for making effective rules to lower cost and improve the appearance of their product there is something wrong. Wrg has failed its racers on neirly every level to line a few peoples pockets with vendor dollars.
This is at least a start. Let's hope they keep up .Shocks by BGR army
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Cleaning up the pits? This is not ever going to be NASCAR like. If it does, down the sh!tter it'll go. Have you seen most of us that frequent dirt tracks, not exactly the wine tasting fruity type. However I do get cleaning up the pits. Set rules as to the appearance of stuff, not outlaw it.Originally posted by Tireguy17 View PostAs the originator of this thread I will tell you my thought and opinion, since everyone else is speculating on the reason for the rule change as well......
1. The covers, especially the tarps some use, look ridiculous. Its 1 thing to get the nice wheel and rear enclosure covers, its another to use a tarp or pit mats leaned up against the car. I think LO is trying to clean up the appearance of the pits more than anything. With more TV races and the exposure it brings, the more you want to clean the presentation of the product up.
2. How much do teams REALLY look at the competitions cars? They are all soo entrenched in prepping their own cars and tires, and keeping up with the track, that how much do they venture out to look? Soo do the covers do anything but add a sense of "what's going on under their car?"
3. You all act like in the evening during the races, their are spotlights under the cars and the covers kept everyone from seeing everything going on. Next time you are at a local race, look at a car (without covers) and see what little you can actually see, especially if the frame and bolt ons are black. Its very difficult. If the teams just keep "dummy tires" on all 4 corners you won't be able to see much at night, even with the trailer lights on from above. It's what you can't see, covers or not, that wins races (setup, shock setup, driver, etc)
It's not that big of a deal guys in my opinion and if it creates a little self-policing soo be it. But I think a lot of you are over-reacting.
They absolutely look at other peoples cars. They may not, but they'll find someone they can trust to look at the car. Competitor X isn't going to walk up to competitor Y's car, that's too obvious. You send someone else over, or buy one, and tear it apart.
We aren't talking about just your local bullring. We're talking about one of the top two series saying no to car covers lol.
It's the Bloomer rule no doubt. With the roll he got on last year, people were no doubt seriously pi$$ed and this is their reaction. Funny, but oh well. Not as if it'll matter in the end. It's just ridiculous is all. It's not self policing, it's tattle telling. Do your homework, and beat them. Don't b!tch, cry, and moan about car covers. Do your own testing, experimenting, thinking outside the box. And if the tech guys don't like it, that's who needs to tell you no way in he!! are you running that. If they wanna be more professional, hire real tech guys who know their sh!t and won't play favorites.Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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And he will.........Originally posted by RoundNrOUND View PostRocket wasn't the only one saying anything.... Not condoning the tattle tail crap but I for one am glad someone is trying to keep the cost of racing down. Do you know how much a shock package like that costs? Then do you realize how much testing would have to be done to make it work for you? It's not magic. Scott obviously did his homework and made it work, now it's against the rule, now he will have to find something else.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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