Originally posted by Dante Toledo, OH
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Lucas Oil and the tarp rule
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If it's the same covers I seen. They aren't like the old ones, the ones from last year were just like blanket they just laid over the back half of the car. The ones you and I probably seen just basically covered up the inside the quarter panels and under the spoiler. Looked like magnets is what held them to the car. Not sure who makes them, Landers and Bloomquist were the only two I seen have these.
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I can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.
With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.
As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.
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With my experience with engineers where are work, there is ZERO gain by looking at pictures, to truly learn something from a competitor's product, you have to use it, test it, and tear it apart to see if they put it together differently than you do and how that makes their product perform better/worse.Originally posted by Bubstr View PostI can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.
With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.
As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.
But, I work in the manufacturing world, it has no relevance to how race cars are manufactured....
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We learn a lot from watching the cars at the track, video and pictures. We don't always need to tear something apart to figure out what they are doing. To be honest though someone comes up with new ideas and innovation so why is it so hard to think that covering up the cars is only for the best for each team?
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Yea right...... if it was as easy as you say every GO PRO hooked to roll bars store all of Bloomer's, Lanigans and the Rocket kid's top secret set ups. What do you think drivers are looking at when they sit in the chute? The differences between a winning car can be 3 shock settings, front end alignment and a half inch here or a 1/4" there it isn't some glowing wonder bar of a secret alien origin discovered next to a crashed saucer.Originally posted by Bubstr View PostI can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.
With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.
As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.Last edited by hpmaster; 03-31-2015, 04:59 PM.
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Am I missing something here? Every race I attend, the cars are backed into their pit. I don't know of too many fans that will walk to the back of the car to snoop around. If its the competition their worried about, what team leaves their car completely unattended! However, I would agree to a tarp covering up the rear open area, like the old days.
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This is true. Almost all cars Are backed into the pit stalls.Originally posted by drtrkr244 View PostAm I missing something here? Every race I attend, the cars are backed into their pit. I don't know of too many fans that will walk to the back of the car to snoop around. If its the competition their worried about, what team leaves their car completely unattended! However, I would agree to a tarp covering up the rear open area, like the old days.
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