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  • zyoung25
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 8945

    #46
    Originally posted by Dante Toledo, OH View Post
    They had covers on some of the cars at Atomic. If someone would explain how to post a picture off my phone to here, i have pictures of Landers car all tarped up. The back and the rear wheels.
    If it's the same covers I seen. They aren't like the old ones, the ones from last year were just like blanket they just laid over the back half of the car. The ones you and I probably seen just basically covered up the inside the quarter panels and under the spoiler. Looked like magnets is what held them to the car. Not sure who makes them, Landers and Bloomquist were the only two I seen have these.

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    • Bubstr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3734

      #47
      I can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.

      With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.

      As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.

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      • vande07
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1004

        #48
        Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
        I can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.

        With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.

        As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.
        With my experience with engineers where are work, there is ZERO gain by looking at pictures, to truly learn something from a competitor's product, you have to use it, test it, and tear it apart to see if they put it together differently than you do and how that makes their product perform better/worse.

        But, I work in the manufacturing world, it has no relevance to how race cars are manufactured....

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        • RoundNrOUND
          Senior Member
          • May 2013
          • 573

          #49
          We learn a lot from watching the cars at the track, video and pictures. We don't always need to tear something apart to figure out what they are doing. To be honest though someone comes up with new ideas and innovation so why is it so hard to think that covering up the cars is only for the best for each team?

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          • JokerPrime
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 218

            #50
            Originally posted by hpmaster View Post
            UMP has selectively enforced ALL their rules for years....no story here.
            Green Rep goes here. - Ole JP!!

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            • hpmaster
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 1088

              #51
              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
              I can see why a lot of good racers, don't want the competition to see under their cars. There is a lot of information there, if your smart enough to figure it out. If you know the chassis, you can figure out a out of things, including center of gravity, roll center, spring rates and asymmetrical adjustments to the 4 bar. This does not include tire prep. With that info, you an get close to what they are running in the front, because there has to be a balance between the front and rear. Your there to win races, not teach chassis school.

              With that said, I can see why series tech wants it. Someone will run and tell the teacher if they see something illegal. Makes their job easier.

              As a fan, I like to see the good stuff and how much it's changed over the years. Nothing prettier than a rolling chassis, ready for skin.
              Yea right...... if it was as easy as you say every GO PRO hooked to roll bars store all of Bloomer's, Lanigans and the Rocket kid's top secret set ups. What do you think drivers are looking at when they sit in the chute? The differences between a winning car can be 3 shock settings, front end alignment and a half inch here or a 1/4" there it isn't some glowing wonder bar of a secret alien origin discovered next to a crashed saucer.
              Last edited by hpmaster; 03-31-2015, 04:59 PM.

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              • drtrkr244
                Banned
                • Dec 2007
                • 1024

                #52
                Am I missing something here? Every race I attend, the cars are backed into their pit. I don't know of too many fans that will walk to the back of the car to snoop around. If its the competition their worried about, what team leaves their car completely unattended! However, I would agree to a tarp covering up the rear open area, like the old days.

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                • Josh Bayko
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 8737

                  #53
                  Originally posted by drtrkr244 View Post
                  Am I missing something here? Every race I attend, the cars are backed into their pit. I don't know of too many fans that will walk to the back of the car to snoop around. If its the competition their worried about, what team leaves their car completely unattended! However, I would agree to a tarp covering up the rear open area, like the old days.
                  This is true. Almost all cars Are backed into the pit stalls.
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                  • hpmaster
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1088

                    #54
                    You can get more hints on whats going on watching DOD videos and pics than you might think. DOD please extend my subscription for the plug.........

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                    • buster83
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1878

                      #55
                      back in the day mostly all had them, even drove onto track with them on for driver introduction then they would take them off.

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