Lucas Oil and the tarp rule

[MRM]

I think the pitting together and the no tarps go hand-in-hand. Keep the teams together to watch them easier.

[Captain Happy]

I think the pitting together and the no tarps go hand-in-hand. Keep the teams together to watch them easier.

Well yeah, that's the idea here but where does this "police act" stop?? When they all are running as equal to the same as NASCRAP???

Wait, that's already in play... Nevermind!

[COKEandaSMILE]

I think the pitting together and the no tarps go hand-in-hand. Keep the teams together to watch them easier.

If that is their reasoning then they should say so. They claim it's to enhance the fan experience., ,,, which it does not.

[huskerdirt]

If that is their reasoning then they should say so. They claim it's to enhance the fan experience., ,,, which it does not.

In the article on DoD. I get the impression that it does go hand in hand. The article drivers do agree that it does increase the fan experience. I believe they are trying to cater to the casual fan to make the sport grow and maybe potential sponsors.

I do think they need to make a cut off time though. That should been in the rule before they applied it.

[Crossbones]

If that is their reasoning then they should say so. They claim it's to enhance the fan experience., ,,, which it does not.

Just like everything else in our society mystery is not allowed, gotta make everything boring and sterile. Wrong headed theories on what really draws people.

[vande07]

My question is what is to gain by having the tarps?

No other form of racing allows you to "hide" your racecar from officials and competitors on a race weekend do they?

I find it very hard to believe that dirt Late Models have more secrets than F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, Sportscars, World of Outlaw Sprints, Modifieds, etc., etc..

The fast cars will be the fast cars no matter if they put them all in a garage and take the body panels off of them for everyone to see or if they allow them to tarp off their entire pit area so no one can see. Those that work the hardest and have the most knowledge will always be fast (at least IMO), and those that think they can "buy speed" or can look at another car and change something on theirs so it looks the same and expect to be just as fast are fooling themselves,

To me, the tarps were a waste of $$

[vande07]

In the article on DoD. I get the impression that it does go hand in hand. The article drivers do agree that it does increase the fan experience. I believe they are trying to cater to the casual fan to make the sport grow and maybe potential sponsors.

I do think they need to make a cut off time though. That should been in the rule before they applied it.

If they want to increase the fan experience I have a couple of ideas....

1. No cars can "load up" until 30 minutes AFTER the last checkered flag of the night (how do you get young kids interested in racing? You put them in the drivers seat of a car after the races)

2. Involve the fans in the format. I don't care if they do straight up starts, inverts, time trials, pill draws, etc. for their format. But let that decision be made by those paying to attend via their smartphones or when they purchase their ticket to the event. Announce the decision of the fans prior to hotlaps (if pilldraw), after time trials (if invert or straight up).

3. Open pit area for 2-3 hours every afternoon of a multi-day show (don't make people pay to go to the pits, make it free of charge and encourage teams to have hero cards, candy, etc. for kids under 14. The kids are the FUTURE of the sport (either as spectators or, drivers, team owners, sponsors, crew members, etc. - you lose them or a few generations of them, and the sport will die a quick death)

[zyoung25]

I never seen any car covers at either race until the races were over.

As far as what they gain....nothing imo. I'm pretty sure it's just a mind game to the ones that do it.

[huskerdirt]

If they want to increase the fan experience I have a couple of ideas....

1. No cars can "load up" until 30 minutes AFTER the last checkered flag of the night (how do you get young kids interested in racing? You put them in the drivers seat of a car after the races)

2. Involve the fans in the format. I don't care if they do straight up starts, inverts, time trials, pill draws, etc. for their format. But let that decision be made by those paying to attend via their smartphones or when they purchase their ticket to the event. Announce the decision of the fans prior to hotlaps (if pilldraw), after time trials (if invert or straight up).

3. Open pit area for 2-3 hours every afternoon of a multi-day show (don't make people pay to go to the pits, make it free of charge and encourage teams to have hero cards, candy, etc. for kids under 14. The kids are the FUTURE of the sport (either as spectators or, drivers, team owners, sponsors, crew members, etc. - you lose them or a few generations of them, and the sport will die a quick death)

I agree on all of that..... When I went Wheatland a few years ago for the diamond nationals. I kid you not the some of the guys drove there cars straight on the lift after the races. Within 15 minutes there was a traffic jam trying to get out of the pits while the mod feature was still running. Kinda left a sour taste in my mouth. You had these kids that wanted to see drivers and such. Yet apparently most were concerned with getting home.

[FlatTire]

Black Sunshine is hard at work developing his new motion activated smoke machine that he will strategically position under the car to produce enough smoke to obstruct the view of all the googly eyed chumps trying to copy his innovative ways. This is all in retaliation for Bloomer getting away with his magic Penske sticks. Has little to do with "fan experience". Thats just how they helped sell this to the sheeple. Meanwhile society continues to cater to the slackasses & Obama lubbers.

[Captain Happy]

Lmao!!!!!!!!!

[Escobar]

Don O'Neal never used any kind of cover last year and he was able to win the title. The Waaaahhhhmbulance will be here soon for all the aspiring LOLMDS drivers on this thread. We all know it directly affects each one of you on a personal level.

[zeroracing]

My question is what is to gain by having the tarps?

No other form of racing allows you to "hide" your racecar from officials and competitors on a race weekend do they?

I find it very hard to believe that dirt Late Models have more secrets than F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, Sportscars, World of Outlaw Sprints, Modifieds, etc., etc..

The fast cars will be the fast cars no matter if they put them all in a garage and take the body panels off of them for everyone to see or if they allow them to tarp off their entire pit area so no one can see. Those that work the hardest and have the most knowledge will always be fast (at least IMO), and those that think they can "buy speed" or can look at another car and change something on theirs so it looks the same and expect to be just as fast are fooling themselves,

To me, the tarps were a waste of $$

Your point about F1, Indycar or nascar is not accurate. NASCAR mandates a ton of what you can run so by naked eye almost any of the improvements that a team makes would be impossible to see, also they are aero dependent which can be seen by the exterior body. Indycar is a spec series where all the cars are basically the same. F1 uses private garages for each team and secrecy is government level. They use graphics to hide body contours, they keep underfloors and parts under cover at all times just about. Heck they wI'll hardly let outdated tech out of the house, look at f1 tech forums, a guy gets a part and talks about taking it apart he gets a call from the team offering to buy it or demanding he return it.

Our cars have very little rules so big differences could exist between two chassis that the eye could see. These guys make a living by these cars, it is not a hobby at this level. I would not let my competitors walk behind the front desk in my company let alone check out my business plans.

I say allow rear coves only, cannot go more than 6" in front of spoiler.

[RoundNrOUND]

^^^^^^^^^ what he said

[ride height]

While i myself dont own or work on these cars, my bet is...whatever is covered up Is a diversion from whats really the hot little newest go fast adjustment the winners are doing. They have yall too busy trying to see whats covered up and you never look elsewhere. Just my 2 cents.