Lucas Oil and the tarp rule

[Captain Happy]

The magician can only create an allusion...

[RoundNrOUND]

It's all the small things that add up to victory. The longer you can keep those small things to yourself, the longer you keep getting the victories and keep building onto those small advantages.

[Highside Hustler25]

The magician can only create an allusion...

It wasn't the Penske shocks, rather the Magic tarp that has ole Scotty off to a bad start

[Dante Toledo, OH]

They had covers on some of the cars at Atomic. If someone would explain how to post a picture off my phone to here, i have pictures of Landers car all tarped up. The back and the rear wheels.

[bonz45]

In response to the suggested point of the after race time, I have never understood why at least the Outlaws have not followed the sprint lead in this practice. Great PR. Maybe the LM guys just don't want to deal with fans??? I think it would definitely add to the fan experience and would encourage especially kids to return- give them something more to look forward to. On the down side, that would dictate the SLM's getting the last event of the night, meaning sitting through countless support divisions. I guess at some tracks all the kids would be asleep by then anyway...In that case, never mind-just rambling on....

[COKEandaSMILE]

They had covers on some of the cars at Atomic. If someone would explain how to post a picture off my phone to here, i have pictures of Landers car all tarped up. The back and the rear wheels.

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Think that should do it.

[Captain Happy]

It wasn't the Penske shocks, rather the Magic tarp that has ole Scotty off to a bad start

Don't tell me you're actually thinking Bloomer hasn't a trick or two up his sleeve are ya? He's been running pretty good even in Lucas's radar screen... He'll have them scathing their heads soon enough, if he aleady hasn't.

VOODOO!!!!!

[Captain Happy]

This new controlled environment the guys are put into will eventually backfire on Lucas!

[vande07]

Your point about F1, Indycar or nascar is not accurate. NASCAR mandates a ton of what you can run so by naked eye almost any of the improvements that a team makes would be impossible to see, also they are aero dependent which can be seen by the exterior body. Indycar is a spec series where all the cars are basically the same. F1 uses private garages for each team and secrecy is government level. They use graphics to hide body contours, they keep underfloors and parts under cover at all times just about. Heck they wI'll hardly let outdated tech out of the house, look at f1 tech forums, a guy gets a part and talks about taking it apart he gets a call from the team offering to buy it or demanding he return it.

Our cars have very little rules so big differences could exist between two chassis that the eye could see. These guys make a living by these cars, it is not a hobby at this level. I would not let my competitors walk behind the front desk in my company let alone check out my business plans.

I say allow rear coves only, cannot go more than 6" in front of spoiler.

Hate to break this to you, F1 is more regulated than ANY other type of racing. They have specs for every single part on the car. The big thing with them is, what you start the season with, you can't change until the season is over. You design a part that performs terribly, you're stuck with it until next season. There are very little secrets, the teams that work hard (and have boatloads of $$$$, are the ones that run up front -- and once you get behind, it's hard to get back to the top of the mountain), you have to develop the parts and pieces with no testing and during the short off-season (or have another staff entirely devoted to working on the future parts and pieces while you are racing this season. HAAS will have a very difficult time even coming close to competing even though his a billionaire because they haven't opened up shop yet but plan on racing next year (IMO, they needed to open up shop a year ago and not go racing until next year if they don't want to embarrass themselves with how slow their car is compared to other teams).

NASCAR, rules are also very stringent, but the garage area is OPEN to all teams (you have to pit according to your points standing, so the guy leading the points is pitted beside the the team 2nd in points and on down the line. They are FEET from you on race-weekends and again, all parts have to be NASCAR approved, you run an un-approved part, and they put it on display for everyone to see at the NASCAR hauler.

Last I checked, there isn't an abundance of Engineers running around the pits of a dirt late model race (and I can only think of 2 total in dirt racing that race full-time (Greg Hodnett and Sammy Swindell who are both drivers in Sprint Cars. Just "looking" at a car isn't going to tell people much. The only way to get any real information is to measure things, tear it apart, or buy it and change weld-points and such yourself. Considering most chassis these days are mass-produced (Rocket, Bloomquist by Sweet, Mastersbuilt, Mars, etc..), how could you have any secrets, they could just buy your chassis and truly find out what's different about it.

Like I stated before, IN MY OPINION, the tarp is a waste of $$$$, you can't learn enough by visual or even photos, you gotta tear it apart or run it through some testing to truly learn anything valuable.

[vande07]

In response to the suggested point of the after race time, I have never understood why at least the Outlaws have not followed the sprint lead in this practice. Great PR. Maybe the LM guys just don't want to deal with fans??? I think it would definitely add to the fan experience and would encourage especially kids to return- give them something more to look forward to. On the down side, that would dictate the SLM's getting the last event of the night, meaning sitting through countless support divisions. I guess at some tracks all the kids would be asleep by then anyway...In that case, never mind-just rambling on....

Totally agree, but I would question why they need countless support divisions. WoO and Lucas should be able to run a 1 division show at a majority of their events. Gotta get kids more interested IMO, or LM's will see decreasing attendance soon.

[cgrace]

Totally agree, but I would question why they need countless support divisions. WoO and Lucas should be able to run a 1 division show at a majority of their events. Gotta get kids more interested IMO, or LM's will see decreasing attendance soon.

good point!!! . plus if you aint in feature you often want to load up and head home specially if it is is two or three day show. people could go in the pits the first couple of nights.

[Barbecueboy]

Don O'Neal never used any kind of cover last year and he was able to win the title. The Waaaahhhhmbulance will be here soon for all the aspiring LOLMDS drivers on this thread. We all know it directly affects each one of you on a personal level.

Whaaaaaaaaambulance??????

One of the funniest things I've heard on here in a very long time.........

[fryefan]

I hope that the Lucas Oil officials stand their ground on this issue.

[stlracing]

UMP has had the NO TARP after drivers meeting rule in the rulebook for a few years. But I don't think I've seen any track enforce it.

[hpmaster]

UMP has had the NO TARP after drivers meeting rule in the rulebook for a few years. But I don't think I've seen any track enforce it.

UMP has selectively enforced ALL their rules for years....no story here.