New rules for Lucas out

[DoubleZero]

Does anyone really know Kevin's secret? Heck, I've even got a photo of the "Rumley Device", the same one everyone else has.....If the "secret" is so public, seems like someone (else) in the industry would have figured it out by now. And what of all the other drivers that have seen the exposed rear suspension of that car...waiting on the grid, pace laps, etc......were they not paying attention? The photographers focusing on JD...did they miss it too? Was the photo staged, and the info leaked, has Kevin sent LUCAS, and everybody else, on a wild-goose chase? Kevin's pretty sharp and plays the game on several levels. Time will tell.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

That is correct. It's what the engineers cost when you need to start engineering. Testing, R&D, buying equipment... Look at it from the other end. He cost a lot of teams $100,000+ this year . I think it's great that we still innovation room left in the sport, but it'll get out of hand.

Very few can afford to do testing with data acq. to optimize all the current shocks on the car. That is where we are now. The hacksaw and welder, tools of the common man, have been removed from the race.

Engineers are way more important now.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Does anyone really know Kevin's secret? Heck, I've even got a photo of the "Rumley Device", the same one everyone else has.....If the "secret" is so public, seems like someone (else) in the industry would have figured it out by now. And what of all the other drivers that have seen the exposed rear suspension of that car...waiting on the grid, pace laps, etc......were they not paying attention? The photographers focusing on JD...did they miss it too? Was the photo staged, and the info leaked, has Kevin sent LUCAS, and everybody else, on a wild-goose chase? Kevin's pretty sharp and plays the game on several levels. Time will tell.

I expected it to show up at East Bay. Surely, someone else has it.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Bloomers design? Don't you mean f1 tech supplied buy the biggest high end shock company in the country that wasn't even financially feasible to the millionaire budgets in the sport.

Yea that was a bad decision.

According to those on here, they were around $20k. If that's true, then they are 100% feasible to the big teams. Lemme guess, you and the other naive people on here think Kevin's knowledge and things he did was "cheap". The testing, data acquisition, and other machines he had access to aren't cheap.

Do I care, not really. But the hypocrisy on here of the Rumley rule and its such a travesty, while they do it to Bloomer and it's applauded. Lol, like has been said, fukin hypocrites.

[hucktyson]

Shocks , springs , 4 link lengths and angles , all front mounting points , arm lengths , spindle design , ballast placement all wide open and you guys say we have iroc cars now ??? Brian grays car is identical to Bloomquist now ?? Because 1 guy had his contraption outlawed??

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

According to those on here, they were around $20k. If that's true, then they are 100% feasible to the big teams. Lemme guess, you and the other naive people on here think Kevin's knowledge and things he did was "cheap". The testing, data acquisition, and other machines he had access to aren't cheap.

Do I care, not really. But the hypocrisy on here of the Rumley rule and its such a travesty, while they do it to Bloomer and it's applauded. Lol, like has been said, fukin hypocrites.

You think it was expensive because Kevin is held up as a "super genius". You think it was expensive because you don't understand it. That is where people are coming from.

[mopar92]

This is comedy. Everybody is spending big money and big time innovating. Many smart guys in this sport. One just hit on something more than the other.

[Necrosis]

Bloomers design? Don't you mean f1 tech supplied buy the biggest high end shock company in the country that wasn't even financially feasible to the millionaire budgets in the sport. Yea that was a bad decision.

So what did Bloomer have that was outlawed, please enlighten me? It seems everyone here agrees on what he had. Tell me so I can laugh my aS$ off.

[billetbirdcage]

12.22 Suspension Components
A.) Any new chassis design or component design and or technology pertaining to and/or containing
suspension must be submitted to the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series for approval before they will be
permitted for use in competition. Manufacturer and/or competitor may be required to disassemble for
complete inspection before instatement of new part is permitted.


it says chassis design, so I take it the new Rocket XR-1 is going to be submitted?

[A ron]

Just a thought: hard to believe they spent that much money on the device if they didn't even know if they were gonna run the whole schedule.

[billetbirdcage]

4. Floating, pivoting and/or rotating mounts and/or brackets of any sort are not allowed. All brackets or
mounts attached to the birdcage must be bolted or welded solid.


Most cages have rotating shock mounts with a clevis, by the words of the rules that is now illegal.

[Clayton_Wetter]

It's called the Whack-A-Mole rules policy. lol

[sobe92]

4. Floating, pivoting and/or rotating mounts and/or brackets of any sort are not allowed. All brackets or
mounts attached to the birdcage must be bolted or welded solid.


Most cages have rotating shock mounts with a clevis, by the words of the rules that is now illegal.

And clamp brackets, the pierce 3 shock lr, the cmc cantilever shock, bearing chain holders, pretty much all the fun is gone.

[jog49]

I hope Davenport and the Rumleys get PO'd about Lucas trying to "rule" out their innovation and jump to the WoO circuit just to make a point.

[Mike]

4. Floating, pivoting and/or rotating mounts and/or brackets of any sort are not allowed. All brackets or
mounts attached to the birdcage must be bolted or welded solid.


Most cages have rotating shock mounts with a clevis, by the words of the rules that is now illegal.

And if everyone went by the words of the rules the bodies would never gotten to the wind tunnel tested aerodynamic monstrosities they are today.....