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  • FASTRAKPR
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 4924

    #1

    ULTIMATE Bob addresses fees for events and $3000 to win purse

    As we have seen a complaint on this site about entry fees, transponder rentals, etc on the new ULTIMATE Bob series, I am more than willing to address it right here openly and in front of the world. If you have a comment in the future about something we do, please feel free to send us a email as we see that a lot quicker or even send it to our face book page. Honestly we do not get on the forums much anymore hence comments such as this. I am not going to get into a contest on a message board with someone I don't even know. Heck you could be a 12 year old arguing and that would be a waste of time. If you don't understand, ask. Pretty simple really.

    The original post was put out there almost like we were hiding something. That is never the case with this company. The items listed below are facts, not opinions. Keep in mind this is just the series expenses, not including the tracks which of course have their own set of expenses.

    $3000 to win and $105 entry fee. You bet. This was discussed honestly and openly with every single team we have spoken too and not one comment in a negative way was ever made about it. Nothing was hidden. $5 goes to lab for tire samples that the teams could hold us accountable to post and prove to them the tires have actually been tested.

    Complete $3000 to win pay out:
    $3000, $1500, $1000, $850, $750, $650, $600, $550, $500, $490, $480, $470, $460, $450, $440, $430, $420, $410, $400 - 24th.

    $400 to start minimum even at a $3000 to win event. Thats what every team asked us about and said that was the very most important thing to them.

    $20 transponder fee. Well that system cost over $15,000. The person doing the scoring usually gets $5 per transponder or a set fee.

    Officials cost estimated $800 per event. Of course everyone says we don't pay enough at that. too lol.

    Fire works: $300 per race

    Posters/fliers $200 per race

    Truck/trailer/radios/other goodies Conservative estimate: $65,000 - $70,000. Commercial insurance which isn't cheap. Work mans compensation and 3 million in general liability insurance.

    Office staff every week even as minimal as ours is.

    I personally do not draw a salary and never have.

    Point fund guaranteed of $15,000 first season.

    If anyone can figure out how to do this and make money by charging a $100 entry fee, I will hire you and pay you whatever because you are a genius. I have been doing it for 13 years and still trying to figure it out.

    Do we let other engines run? Yes by the rules the teams themselves set.

    Do we own the FASTRAK Series? Yes we do and also take a lot of pride in it too. We started crate late model racing in this country and we think its been good for the sport. Its still the highest point fund in the US for that class and has the strongest purses as well. In one weekend we pay over $70,000 to crate late models at our World Championship. Its been here 13 years now so I guess we are doing something right, maybe? LOL

    I've been hearing for years all the millions we make. Really? I must have been adding the totals incorrectly for 13 years because I still haven't figured it out LOL.

    Listen this is a long post and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to read it all. Please keep in mind when someone post something negative on a message board without knowing all the facts, there is probably an ulterior motive. Don't let them play you that way. They want to talk about we hurt the sport when in fact negative statements on message boards are more damaging than most things. I can't speak for all the series, but I can speak for ours. All anyone ever has to do is ask a question and you will get 100% of the truth. When the truth no longer works, then I retire for good.

    God Bless;


    Stan Lester
    sl@fastrakracing.com
    678-935-7304 office
    706-371-6349 cell
  • W2Racing09
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1691

    #2
    Originally posted by FASTRAKPR View Post
    As we have seen a complaint on this site about entry fees, transponder rentals, etc on the new ULTIMATE Bob series, I am more than willing to address it right here openly and in front of the world. If you have a comment in the future about something we do, please feel free to send us a email as we see that a lot quicker or even send it to our face book page. Honestly we do not get on the forums much anymore hence comments such as this. I am not going to get into a contest on a message board with someone I don't even know. Heck you could be a 12 year old arguing and that would be a waste of time. If you don't understand, ask. Pretty simple really.

    The original post was put out there almost like we were hiding something. That is never the case with this company. The items listed below are facts, not opinions. Keep in mind this is just the series expenses, not including the tracks which of course have their own set of expenses.

    $3000 to win and $105 entry fee. You bet. This was discussed honestly and openly with every single team we have spoken too and not one comment in a negative way was ever made about it. Nothing was hidden. $5 goes to lab for tire samples that the teams could hold us accountable to post and prove to them the tires have actually been tested.

    Complete $3000 to win pay out:
    $3000, $1500, $1000, $850, $750, $650, $600, $550, $500, $490, $480, $470, $460, $450, $440, $430, $420, $410, $400 - 24th.

    $400 to start minimum even at a $3000 to win event. Thats what every team asked us about and said that was the very most important thing to them.

    $20 transponder fee. Well that system cost over $15,000. The person doing the scoring usually gets $5 per transponder or a set fee.

    Officials cost estimated $800 per event. Of course everyone says we don't pay enough at that. too lol.

    Fire works: $300 per race

    Posters/fliers $200 per race

    Truck/trailer/radios/other goodies Conservative estimate: $65,000 - $70,000. Commercial insurance which isn't cheap. Work mans compensation and 3 million in general liability insurance.

    Office staff every week even as minimal as ours is.

    I personally do not draw a salary and never have.

    Point fund guaranteed of $15,000 first season.

    If anyone can figure out how to do this and make money by charging a $100 entry fee, I will hire you and pay you whatever because you are a genius. I have been doing it for 13 years and still trying to figure it out.

    Do we let other engines run? Yes by the rules the teams themselves set.

    Do we own the FASTRAK Series? Yes we do and also take a lot of pride in it too. We started crate late model racing in this country and we think its been good for the sport. Its still the highest point fund in the US for that class and has the strongest purses as well. In one weekend we pay over $70,000 to crate late models at our World Championship. Its been here 13 years now so I guess we are doing something right, maybe? LOL

    I've been hearing for years all the millions we make. Really? I must have been adding the totals incorrectly for 13 years because I still haven't figured it out LOL.

    Listen this is a long post and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to read it all. Please keep in mind when someone post something negative on a message board without knowing all the facts, there is probably an ulterior motive. Don't let them play you that way. They want to talk about we hurt the sport when in fact negative statements on message boards are more damaging than most things. I can't speak for all the series, but I can speak for ours. All anyone ever has to do is ask a question and you will get 100% of the truth. When the truth no longer works, then I retire for good.

    God Bless;


    Stan Lester
    sl@fastrakracing.com
    678-935-7304 office
    706-371-6349 cell
    It wasn't worth your time to even address this Stan. You really can't let people on this board get to you -- you could pay out $10,000 to win and charge no entry fee and people here would find something to complain about. The Ultimate series has become one of the premier Regional SLM series around (in my opinion the number 3 series in the entire country behind LOLMDS and WoO) and that didn't happen by accident. The drivers support you, and when that happens so will the fans.

    Keep up the good work with the Ultimate series,

    Thanks,
    Jeff.

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    • Cardirt0
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 5271

      #3
      I think it was well worth the time.. I for one Love it when someone takes the time too come on here and defends them self.... Way too many times people shot off at the mouth and do not know what they are saying and its good that someone says you dont know what there saying.. Way too go...............

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      • Goodwrench
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 104

        #4
        Very well said Stan. Hope to see you guys soon.
        Bo

        --------------------------
        It's better to be hated for who you are, than loved for who you are not...

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        • FASTRAKPR
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 4924

          #5
          Thank all of you guys very much. I do appreciate you.

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          • wfofan
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 774

            #6
            Stan,
            4M is mostly folks with no life, no real intelligence of racing and like to invite others into their miserable world...
            It takes little time to learn to ignore most of those folks... I farm and wish I had a $ for every time I had someone
            Making decisions for me sit n on their a$$, in their recliner, beer in hand, farming on Facebook...
            World is full of wannabes...

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            • golddirt
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3778

              #7
              Great response!!!

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              • THE DOORMAN 4STUHLER
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 637

                #8
                $105 entry fee is ridiculous!!!!!!

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                • a25rjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 3774

                  #9
                  Stan....thanks for coming on here and defending your stance!

                  You shouldn't have to defend yourself for making money. Anyone complaining about a $105 entry fee, probly shouldn't be racing anyway. Its your name on the bottom of your contracts, not theirs.

                  Keep doing what you're doing. You and your team are putting out a good product!
                  Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                  • B_K
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3236

                    #10
                    Originally posted by THE DOORMAN 4STUHLER View Post
                    $105 entry fee is ridiculous!!!!!!
                    Except it's pretty much the norm and he's paying $400 to start......

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                    • THE DOORMAN 4STUHLER
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 637

                      #11
                      Ouch is all I can say

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                      • slmcrewchief99
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 738

                        #12
                        I said the same thing Stan. That entry fee is standard for all the regional racing we do. The odds are way better for paying a $100.00 to get back at least $400.00 than anybody buying a $20.00 scratch off ticket to win $400.00 I can promise. All the keyboard jockeys don't have a clue. An entry fee won't stop any driver around our part of the world for sure. Hell I p1ss away that much a week over nothing so I have NO problem with it.....

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                        • dirtdobber45
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 7226

                          #13
                          Well put Stan, thank you for your time. Very well organized series.
                          If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                          • lazermod3
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1910

                            #14
                            Originally posted by B_K View Post
                            Except it's pretty much the norm and he's paying $400 to start......
                            Around this part of the country,Ohio,Kentucky and Indiana there are $3000.00 to $5000.00 to win races without any sort of entry fee whatsoever.Hell if that's the norm where you go to race,you and your group should come up here to race and save money.

                            Yes,they are paying $400.00 to start the feature,(THAT'S IF YOU MAKE IT,)It's like buying a $105.00 lottery ticket to win $400.00.

                            Remember it's the racer thats puts on the show,not the bob series,nor fastrak.
                            you just got greased
                            http://www.goddardwarrior.net

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                            • B_K
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3236

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lazermod3 View Post
                              Around this part of the country,Ohio,Kentucky and Indiana there are $3000.00 to $5000.00 to win races without any sort of entry fee whatsoever.Hell if that's the norm where you go to race,you and your group should come up here to race and save money.

                              Yes,they are paying $400.00 to start the feature,(THAT'S IF YOU MAKE IT,)It's like buying a $105.00 lottery ticket to win $400.00.

                              Remember it's the racer thats puts on the show,not the bob series,nor fastrak.
                              Perhaps if your goal for one of these shows is to make it, you're better to just keep the $105 in your pocket until later.

                              I couldn't care less about a series, but $105 for a race paying $400 to start is fair. Just think of it as $3,000 to win $295 to start....

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