Dqed from dream

[oldfart50]

Samples should be properly maintained (sealed by UMP and the drivers) so that if a driver wants the sample tested in another lab the integrity of the sample is protected for both the series and the driver. At my work if someone is drug tested you are advised to go to the hospital and get your own test immediately if you are sure your clean just in case. If I was a driver and I really believed I was not cheating I would want a fair opportunity to have an independent lab test it without any chance of the sample being compromised.

They know they were cheating! Only the sheep would believe they wasnt...

[oldfart50]

You of course can back that up with proof, right? You can be sued for making stupid comments like that.

Yep. I have mounted hundreds of them so sue away. Oh thats right, they wont even comment on this issue as they are as guilty as the cheaters... They cheated and got caught, it is that simple. More cheated and didnt get caught, it is as simple as that...

[old fan]

those classes you speak of is a thing of the past

[Barbecueboy]

Samples should be properly maintained (sealed by UMP and the drivers) so that if a driver wants the sample tested in another lab the integrity of the sample is protected for both the series and the driver.

At my work if someone is drug tested you are advised to go to the hospital and get your own test immediately if you are sure your clean just in case. If I was a driver and I really believed I was not cheating I would want a fair opportunity to have an independent lab test it without any chance of the sample being compromised.

Should certainly be part of the process.....

[Barbecueboy]

no nothing better than a a full field of super lates and a mods sometimes even the b \mods put on a great show also

I like the art of the race itself..........not the type of vehicles in it.

Sure I love the 800/900hp rocketships, but I really wouldn't lose a ton of sleep if there were nothing but hobby stocks on a racey track the rest of my life........would mean I would just watch more boat racing I guess?

[old fan]

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?359428-DQd-from-Senoia

[siderman]

Samples should be properly maintained (sealed by UMP and the drivers) so that if a driver wants the sample tested in another lab the integrity of the sample is protected for both the series and the driver.

At my work if someone is drug tested you are advised to go to the hospital and get your own test immediately if you are sure your clean just in case. If I was a driver and I really believed I was not cheating I would want a fair opportunity to have an independent lab test it without any chance of the sample being compromised.

[old fan]

no nothing better than a a full field of super lates and a mods sometimes even the b \mods put on a great show also

[Barbecueboy]

if we are still talking about this same stuff 5 years from now, y'all can have it.....

I'll stick to the weekend stuff, they race better most times any dam way.

Nothin better than a full field super street or sportsman race.

[formercrewguy]

You would trust Hoosier? Really? For years and years they would soak tires for their special guys or even make tires with a different compound stamped with the correct compound. Never trust Hoosier...

You of course can back that up with proof, right? You can be sued for making stupid comments like that.

[Hovlane]

The funny thing is next month everybody will be talking about some other latest greatest drama in racing. God you gotta love this sport! Honestly never a dull moment!!!!!

[Barbecueboy]

If that questioning were only limited to the citizenry of 4m then I would say you have a rock solid point.....but it's not just questioned by 4mland so unfortunately it's far from rock solid, and sure getting the drivers to cooperate would certainly help , but it's already been established that they are all cheaters and need to be babysat when it comes to tires.

The answer to all of this lay under the purple roof for race ready stuff or with the stroke of a pen by the series that says open tire rule, cheat on something else now.

[dirtdobber45]

Of50...Have you bumped your head? When and where did they do that?

[Hovlane]

I think the issue is not a crooked series but, cheaters could walk free if proper protocol isn't followed. Happens everyday in both civil cases and criminal cases. nobody likes to see the guilty walk.

[blncfn57]

How bout they quit dorking around with it........make sets of tires race ready.......have a stack of them in every ones pits as they arrive and stfu and race.

If you get caught cheating after that, the series says your dead to me......don't come back....goodbye.

Surely they can produce a series of tires that are race ready in different compounds , question is , financially speaking, do they want to?

And before anyone says it won't work , too expensive etc.......think about what you spend on tire program currently, how far off is it to say that you come to the track now with a bare minimum of 2k worth of tires for the local guys and lord knows what for the unlimited budget guys.

it could be done if they wanted to and it really wouldn't wipe out the local guy that is good enough to run when the series comes in to town.

For years, drivers have said they did not want tire doping allowed. Yet they are the ones that keep doing it. What they really meant was they don't want it allowed for anyone but themselves. It's not the series' that are dorking around, if the drivers quit using the crap, there are no disqualifications from it. The problem won't go away until the drivers themselves decide they are done messing with it. You can switch labs or switch the process all you want, but as long as the drivers dope tires and get caught they are going to say they didn't and people on 4m are going to question the enforcers.