Dqed from dream

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Man o man what a mess we have here!

[old fan]

you would think theses teams would 've learned a lesson but he11 no

[UMPDream]

Tire prep rule, in my opinion, hurts the little guy. First, not all tire preps are softeners. Many are conditioners that bring the tire up to temp faster, and allows the tire temps to plateau and level off, many times adding life to the tire by better controlling temps. Fact of the matter is fans see a better show, competitors (especially the budget guys) have increased tire life, and the correct preps may allow some of the smaller budget teams to bring some of their tires back to life, versus needing 6 new tires to run a touring show and be somewhat competitive. Generally speaking, preps are fairly low cost, especially if it gives your tires an extra night or two of life. Is anyone at that great of an advantage by treating tires on dirt? at best, the results shown are 2-3 tenths on asphalt, curious with the effects on dirt other than preserving the tire through the course of a longer race. With the recent advancements in traction control devices, some that the general fan isn't even aware exists, is more of a threat to the sport than treating tires. It is what it is and they got caught, but if you think those were the only guys at Eldora with treated tires, you are nuts. Just depends what they were using, how much, and if the labs are onto it yet. Its a cat and mouse game.

I can understand your point of view of why you need prep and how a gallon at $20-$30 ends up saving you money in the long run. However, we aren't talking about $20 gallons of prep. We are talking about 5 gallon buckets that cost hundreds if not more, machines to roll the chemicals, etc... Trust me, you dont want to compete with whats out there compared to the $20 gallon. We have dealt with this for too long now. It's time to start going to a spec tire, no grooving, no siping. Buy it at the track, install it and go race. Does this suck? YES, but its the only way to take care of this once and for all. If those many top teams are willing to sacrifice all purse money, not to mention the World 100, then NO fine or penalty will stop it. The only way to stop it is to do what I'm saying above. That way, all teams will be on an equal tire basis. Trust me, all teams and crews would LOVE to eliminate the grooving and siping that sucks the time out of you. It's time for a big change.

[jog49]

All this cheating and unsportsmanlike conduct......seems that's the direction the whole (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) country is headed here the last decade or so.

[Bob Hubbard]

I bet tony wish's he would have checked bloomers tire last year when he was lite on the scales ..... Than what ....

[racingfool32]

A lot of "BUTTHURT" bloomer fans here complaining. lmao

[gorj]

Until a series, WoO or Lucas suspends a series regular, I won't buy into their way of enforcing the rules.
Suspend one of your own and I'll believe you are being fair with all competitors. It's a joke.

[Barbecueboy]

Until a series, WoO or Lucas suspends a series regular, I won't buy into their way of enforcing the rules.
Suspend one of your own and I'll believe you are being fair with all competitors. It's a joke.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Let em run open tires OR make them buy them at the track the day of the race.....clearly the methods of selective enforcement being used arent working.

[TS FAN]

Wow...that shocks me. Stiff penalties, those 5 drivers won't be running the World 100. My first reaction is will these guys hold a grudge against WoO and Eldora when they are off of suspension. Will it hinder the car count at Eldora shows or will smaller teams feel like they get a fair shake there and more of them show up? Questions, questions, questions.

They might hold a grudge against Eldora, but not against the purse money and prestige of winning there holds. No worries

[davis2902]

LMAO! All the people on here so upset about this. Answer this, how many cars would be on the track if the entire rule book was really fully enforced?

They cheated, they new it, they got caught. Some have learned a lesson, some will never learn!

[old fan]

Until a series, WoO or Lucas suspends a series regular, I won't buy into their way of enforcing the rules. Suspend one of your own and I'll believe you are being fair with all competitors. It's a joke.

yep a good long time out for the Driver and team owners and crew members can we say multiple years betcha bshep wishes he was back in his own ride

[TS FAN]

The UMP races, the World 100? Am I to understand these guys can't run in these events? What other events are they barred from? Thanks for any info.

[Cooter Davenport]

We have dealt with this for too long now. It's time to start going to a spec tire, no grooving, no siping. Buy it at the track, install it and go race. Does this suck? YES, but its the only way to take care of this once and for all.

That sounds good in theory, but if tires are sold on a first come first serve basis, then the last guy in line gets screwed....everyone like to run certain amounts of stagger, and if you are the last in line to get tires, you would get stuck with what's left.....

[chupp n bloomer fan]

best post so far! The bad thing is, their fans believe them when they say it.

I like how crow and you speak for all Bloomer fans, comical. I don't for a second think he didn't juice tires. Only one I have doubt about is Ricky Thornton Jr. The other 4 I'd go with guilty as charged.

And for crow, 6'2" 200, no tats, don't smoke.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

The UMP races, the World 100? Am I to understand these guys can't run in these events? What other events are they barred from? Thanks for any info.

All WoO events, Summer Nats, anything that WRG owns. You got the other 2 worth mentioning.