Dqed from dream

[ride height]

The only way to end all this is to either just let them doctor the tires or ban them from all sanctioned events for like 5 yrs if caught. youre either going to have to put the fear of God in them with bans, OR just say screw it....do what you want to tires. Theres no middle ground here on this topic that I see as viable.

[Barbecueboy]

why certainly just can 't run the firecracker summer nats or world if found guilty

Why would they want to run where there not wanted anyway???

Plenty o options out there if you want to race.

[IZZOJR16]

And that's the problem.........they are supposedly getting away with all this other stuff and the best the series can do is throw a terribly questionable antiquated random tire test at them , get some chatter going about it and say " look at what we are doing to keep it real". Preposterous.......juiced tires aren't the dam reason racing costs are ridiculous, quite the opposite actually IMO. And no offense meant to you at all.

you can look at it like that I suppose ( glass have empty) but I see it as sign at least something is being done regardless how minute it may seem. I don't know how much recourses the racing series' have to keep up with all these high dollar teams and cheating. second, I understand that juiced tires aren't the only reason racing has become astronomically expensive , rather just a spoke in the whell amongst many other issues.

[RW57]

Here is my take on this how could anyone be so stupid to doctor tires with 100 grand on the line. Is it stupid or arrogance or both.😭😭😭

[dirtdobber45]

'altering the face of the tire lettering and/or tire stamping will not be permitted' ...this is a quote from the rule book so rubbing the wall or another car making the tire stamp illegible would be technically illegal right?

[Barbecueboy]

We were by Satterlees ride when they took samples. They weren't just throwing chunks of rubber into random bags. The bags had been labeled and another dude was recording everything on a clipboard regarding the driver, tire compound in use, etc. They were doing a very through job of recording and ensuring that everything was correctly labeled and associated to the driver.

When they were testing Satterlees tires he was fairly agitated and short with everyone.

I didn't figure Sam was just stuffing them in a sandwich bag all willy nilly......the whole thing is really just stupid.

Reminds me a little bit of the 55 mph speed limit enforcement on the highway.......yeah, it's the law of the land, and totally enforceable ........but really?

[powerslide]

'altering the face of the tire lettering and/or tire stamping will not be permitted' ...this is a quote from the rule book so rubbing the wall or another car making the tire stamp illegible would be technically illegal right?

You aren't going to rub the inside lettering off(they are on both sides of the mold). Sorry bout your luck. Try again.

[Barbecueboy]

you can look at it like that I suppose ( glass have empty) but I see it as sign at least something is being done regardless how minute it may seem. I don't know how much recourses the racing series' have to keep up with all these high dollar teams and cheating. second, I understand that juiced tires aren't the only reason racing has become astronomically expensive , rather just a spoke in the whell amongst many other issues.

The series guys aren't stupid,they just give this tire stuff a bunch of lip service and call it a day.........its just a bad plan, and deep down , it's really a shaky mysterious enforcment effort ripe with room for error , and they know it.
They can re write a rule book for a piece that could have basically been made with thrown out bed frames but they can't figure out a better way to do tires for their events????? Pfffffffffffft.

And fwiw, I'm far from a glass 1/2 empty guy.......but I'm also far from the guy that's not going to tell the emperor that he's not wearing any clothes either.

Sorry you took me that way.

[Barbecueboy]

You aren't going to rub the inside lettering off(they are on both sides of the mold). Sorry bout your luck. Try again.

True dat....

[old fan]

Why would they want to run where there not wanted anyway???Plenty o options out there if you want to race.

100 k plus might have something to do with it

[plunks7]

It's open late models, so run open tires. Anything goes!!! Ends the guessing games, and everybody can do it if they so do choose. So if 1 guy runs 1 compound does the rest of the field have to run what he is running? Saves money on testing and anything else associated with tires. I'm more concerned about other gadgets that some get away with.

[old fan]

no you have to have a tire rule the woo sprints for example are 2 seconds quicker est but yet they have a strict tire rule

[plunks7]

Good for the sprints. IDC about them, they have to get pushed to start. Boriiiiinnnnnngggggg

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

'altering the face of the tire lettering and/or tire stamping will not be permitted' ...this is a quote from the rule book so rubbing the wall or another car making the tire stamp illegible would be technically illegal right?

Ask a25rjr he knows everythig about nuthn

[bb14]

Buying tires the day of the race won't work. Back in the 90s I helped a NASCAR All Pro team and we would inject some inside the tire before the last hot lap session and run a couple of laps. It was worth 2 or 3 tenths for qualifying. Everybody did it. Some Cup teams, really big Cup team was caught a few years ago utilizing the large digital tire pressure gauges and injecting it into the tires during pit stops.

Racers will always cheat. I feel it is stealing myself.