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  • drano
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1339

    #241
    If you could gain 2 or 3 tenths that stuff must have been amazing.

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    • oldfart50
      Banned
      • Aug 2015
      • 252

      #242
      I have seen it gain over a second for over 70 laps. If it wasnt amazing no one would be doing it.
      Originally posted by drano View Post
      If you could gain 2 or 3 tenths that stuff must have been amazing.

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      • oldfart50
        Banned
        • Aug 2015
        • 252

        #243
        Or maybe it is like this. If you are a Lucas guy with $100k on the line it is worth the risk. If you get caught you still get to run the Lucas series. But if you are a WOO guy and get caught you will also get suspended from the WOO. Risk VS Reward. Some of you should really contact your state and demand a refund for your education...
        Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
        Could it be a conspiracy? This is how I break it down. 1. Scott Bloomquist Lucas boy thru and thru. Left WoO in 2004 and never looked back. Been a Lucas regular since 2009 and has been the Lucas Oil poster child for the last 6 years. 2. Jimmy Owens The other Lucas poster child. 3 Lucas titles in a row. Only National series he's ever competed in. Bleeds Lucas oil red second only to Scott. 3. Brandon Sheppard One of the hottest young guns out there. Gained National exposure with WoO when he got the Rocket house car ride for a year. WoO thought they might get a fresh young driver for their series as some of the WoO originals are getting close to the end of their careers on a National level. But wait, B Shep ends up joining the Lucas tour right when they're in dire need of some new good talent after losing T Mac and Lanigan. 4. Greg Satterlee Ran the WoO tour for quite a few years and has since dropped off to run a more regional schedule. 5. Ricky Thornton sorryI got nothin here I do find it strange that I can not remember WoO ever busting one of their regulars. Maybe coincidental who knows but it sure smells fishy. One thing I do know, WoO can't afford to suspend one of their own if they want to maintain a traveling series.

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        • gjohnston
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 78

          #244
          Jimmy Mars has to be laughing about this.

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          • cutman
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 1005

            #245
            Is it possible that Sam caught wind of what teams were using and sending to the lab to see if it would pass? Or would what they were using be undetectable regardless of knowing what to test for?

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            • old fan
              Banned
              • Jan 2016
              • 4191

              #246
              Originally posted by plunks7 View Post
              Good for the sprints. IDC about them, they have to get pushed to start. Boriiiiinnnnnngggggg
              true about that but a he11 va a lot faster than a late model

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              • drano
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1339

                #247
                Originally posted by oldfart50 View Post
                I have seen it gain over a second for over 70 laps. If it wasnt amazing no one would be doing it.
                No wonder people get caught cheating when they tire dope if you gain a second that would sure draw suspicion.

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                • Highside Hustler25
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 12965

                  #248
                  Originally posted by oldfart50 View Post
                  Or maybe it is like this. If you are a Lucas guy with $100k on the line it is worth the risk. If you get caught you still get to run the Lucas series. But if you are a WOO guy and get caught you will also get suspended from the WOO. Risk VS Reward. Some of you should really contact your state and demand a refund for your education...
                  Well, my State is 9 tenths brokeAny other options???
                  8/13/16

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                  • old fan
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 4191

                    #249
                    what state of confusion

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                    • Necrosis
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 379

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Andrews42FAN View Post
                      When they were testing Satterlees tires he was fairly agitated and short with everyone.
                      Now now now, no need to make those kinda jokes about a man's height! Yes, he may have come up short at the Dream, but at least he can stand tall knowing he didn't cheat! What's that you say? He did? Well, he should just be the bigger man and admit his shortcomings... He shouldn't let his detractors weaken his resolve... Just give them the double tall man and tell 'em to go to hell!

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                      • Aces&Eights
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 237

                        #251
                        Originally posted by Pennsboro23 View Post
                        If you're Jonathan Davenport, how do you feel? Lucas drew up a 3 page rule book just for his left rear and you've got other guys doping tires on the Lucas series. (It's not like this is their first time). I can't believe people aren't talking about Lucas more in this deal. Looks to me like they're letting tire doping go. WoO/UMP just made themselves look a whole lot better than Lucas, integrity wise.
                        Could it be since 3 of those caught Usually run Lucas that they were willing to gamble at a non-points event paying $100K that they wouldn't be selected for testing? I don't see how them getting caught by WoO says that Lucas isn't testing. It was a logical, be it, ill advised gamble for a $100,000 since the penalties/suspensions wouldn't effect your day job...
                        Last edited by Aces&Eights; 06-23-2016, 10:19 PM.

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                        • Hard rock candy
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 46

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Aces&Eights
                          Zero's super secret sauce, did it contribute to his tire's premature ejaculation during hot laps?Was B'Shep's killing them in his heat, juicey or just J-Lo?"Look Mama I'm going fast!" Ricky Bobby Jr(Thornton) wasnt really going fast and Mama's not happy.The O-Show had a dream that has become a nightmare.Satterlee, aka "jimmy Neutron" wasn't as quick in the lab as the other dudes.
                          Awesome post!

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                          • Pennsboro23
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 5256

                            #253
                            Originally posted by Aces&Eights View Post
                            Could it be since 3 of those caught Usually run Lucas that they were willing to gamble at a non-points event paying $100K that they wouldn't be selected for testing? I don't see how them getting caught by WoO says that Lucas isn't testing. It was a logical, be it, ill advised gamble for a $100,000 since the penalties/suspensions wouldn't effect your day job... You can really tell on here who races and who don't.
                            You really think this is their first time doing it this year? They aren't going to gamble like that only once and risk their reputations and for 100,000?. What were they going to do had they won the 100,000, they know that the tires would have been taken. They've gotten away with it so many times and thought they would again. This wasn't a hey lets chance it kinda deal. They were thinking nobody was going to check, or that they had undetectable stuff, and had gotten away with it all year. WoO/UMP don't have a problem catching guys all the time. When is the last time someone has been caught running a lucas series race? You can really tell who has common sense and who doesn't around here.
                            Last edited by Pennsboro23; 06-22-2016, 10:01 AM.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #254
                              Originally posted by oldfart50 View Post
                              I have seen it gain over a second for over 70 laps. If it wasnt amazing no one would be doing it.
                              There are quite a few things in racing that have/are being done that people believe are amazing. None of the guys using the stuff have legitimate testing data to prove it works. I call BS on a second. Unless you softened a D70 to durometer 35 and were running on a wet track. You just can't gain that much. Anyone who did, it would be totally obvious.
                              Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 06-22-2016, 09:48 AM.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • Cardirt0
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 5271

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                                Well, my State is 9 tenths brokeAny other options???
                                Will that means thing are getting better in Ill. then...Cause we were at 9.999 be for.....

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