Overturned!!! ---ish

[Snake X3]

Exactly! BUT Johnny barbecueboy Cochran will sure think so.

If the test is sh1t, you must acquit.

[old fan]

Stlracing has the true story

[Finnfan]

Does this actually mean Barbecueboy is wrong...or should we just wait for his spin as to why he's right and EVERYBODY else is wrong?

[blncfn57]

If the test is sh1t, you must acquit.

because the sanctioning body would knowingly try to pull all this off with shaky evidence.

The question now is, will Lucas finally start taking this all seriously or will they continue making rules to keep one guy from winning while ignoring the tires?

[blncfn57]

Does this actually mean Barbecueboy is wrong...or should we just wait for his spin as to why he's right and EVERYBODY else is wrong?

I'm sure he's not wrong. The building full of chemists dropped the ball. racers do not cheat.

[non driving fool]

W O W !!!! Didn't take long for BBQ to get scarce did it ?

[D. Tidrow]

You can bet the establishment had their back side covered before announcing the penalties, it's just that some 4m lawyers refused to believe it.

I don't think anybody on 4m has ever past the bar. I still believe the testing process is not the greatest. I will say, did you really believe any other outcome?

[D. Tidrow]

Does this actually mean Barbecueboy is wrong...or should we just wait for his spin as to why he's right and EVERYBODY else is wrong?

There really isn't no spin, I expected this just like bbq boy probably did. You can't fight the system. I will not put words in his mouth.

[D. Tidrow]

W O W !!!! Didn't take lost for BBQ to get scarce did it ?

I'm sure he has a business to run.

[Finnfan]

Well the good news for BBQ is he won't have to come up with that obnoxious dance he promised when it was overturned...so there's that.

[blncfn57]

I don't think anybody on 4m has ever past the bar. I still believe the testing process is not the greatest. I will say, did you really believe any other outcome?

perhaps the testing process could and will be conducted differently so there can be no question if it were to happen again, but each competitor entered the event knowing how the process worked and by entering they agreed to the terms. I did not believe there would be any other outcome because I believe the tests were prolly double or triple checked to make sure of the results before they acted.

There is one really smart car owner that keeps pushing WRG to test tires, that person is neck deep in racing and knows what is going on with the teams. It's funny tho, because some point the finger at him as being a cheater, when in fact he is one of the loudest voices against it and wants the testing done.

[D. Tidrow]

perhaps the testing process could and will be conducted differently so there can be no question if it were to happen again, but each competitor entered the event knowing how the process worked and by entering they agreed to the terms. I did not believe there would be any other outcome because I believe the tests were prolly double or triple checked to make sure of the results before they acted. There is one really smart car owner that keeps pushing WRG to test tires, that person is neck deep in racing and knows what is going on with the teams. It's funny tho, because some point the finger at him as being a cheater, when in fact he is one of the loudest voices against it and wants the testing done.

I agree with you on many things. The thing is many competitors knew when and what tires were going to be tested. The question is why would they still cheat tires. Either they were clean or they thought the juice they were using was undetectable. I like to believe my certain drivers. After all I am a fan, just like you.

[dirtnut]

the statement I got said they would be suspended and would have to pay fines!!

[Barbecueboy]

If it's a procedural thing that gets them off (which has been implied), it has nothing to do with the results of the tests. And to much of the public eye, the guys involved will still be guilty. It's what happened to Ryan Braun.

You seem to be the only one so very passionate about this whole deal, and I think I've figured out why. No matter that happens with Eldora Tiregate, it's not going to change things for Willie Miliken. As soon as he admitted to Simple Green, he screwed himself.

Has zero to do with Willie milliken........has everything to do with getting it right.

[D. Tidrow]

They upheld the DQ's so the people who should really be pissed are those that raced in the Firecracker and SN races this past weekend. I say strip all racers involved of monies won while appeal was going on too!

I say no, these guys race for a living. Just like you mow lawns for a living. Maybe you have a fast mower and charge by the hour. IF they did cheat a tire they know they are under a microscope.